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I bought everything from OCI would counter point that to you smell weird...
Kidding if my dad was buying lol which I'm assuming the op is... I'm getting zev everythang, if I'm buying ill probably get cheaper parts
My point being is that the ops daughter will probably feel more comfortable around firearms if she builds one and thus be more inclined to carry it
If you use quality parts a p80 should be fine
But building is the most expensive option
Yet to be determined - she hasn’t shot since a teenager.Is this for carry or home defense or both.
old timers hate anything that is not round and does not turn around.What's with the common recommendation for a young woman to get a 'snubby' as a first gun? For a noob it's incredibly difficult to master and the bark and recoil might not be fun for some. Go G4Y4HK and get a P30SK. The second amendment only goes up to ten in MA for new guns so might as well find something designed for 10+1.
Dont dismiss gun size to hand sizeShe’s 27, just finishing an amicable divorce (as amicable as they can be), and is moving from Nashua to Manchester to an apartment that‘s in an OK neighborhood but not immune from violent crime. I asked if she’d like to go to an NRA Refuse to be a Victim class together and she said, how about a gun class instead?
I took her and her younger brother shooting when young, so she’s shot 22 pistols and rifles, and a AR15. My son is just out of the 82nd Airborne as a SAW gunner, so he’s set, and in school down in NC. SIG Academy has excellent courses but is booked solid for months, so I’ll ask a local instructor whom I’ve known for decades for a dad-daughter class at a local commercial range to get started.
She’s pretty slight of stature, but fit and strong, so might manage my SIG P365 or Glock G43. If not, maybe a 380acp - I only have a KelTec P3AT…not a weapon fit for primary use. Her hands would never manage a G19. Are there other good options to consider?
The NRA RTBAV class is still in the plan - there’s so much more to personnel security and self-defense than being able to put holes in a target. She’s been to a Women;s Self-Defense 1-day class with my wife - we’re both martial arts instructors but prefer others teach our kids such skills…who listens to their parents until they turn 40?
Let her shoot as many as she can get her hands on , let her and results down range decide. My wife shot my buddies 380 sigYet to be determined - she hasn’t shot since a teenager.
Girlfriend has a Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 compact and loves it. She as well is slight in stature so finding her a gun that would fit was a bit of a challenge.
One thing I've found, anyone but 'you' is better when it comes to wives or other women in your life.MFL is just 5mi away and I’m a member
I figured the 1st time shooting in over a decade, an instructor can teach/advise her rather than me. Mom is willing and interested in joining as well. I don’t need to be there but let’s make it a family outing!
Some of MFL’s folks are well-experienced teaching women - I learned a lot from one of their folks myself in the late 90s, when NH-TAG was active there. Then she can try my Glock G19/G43, SIG P365/P238, KelTec PF9/P3AT and see what feels right, how 38acp compares to 9mm depending on weight and ammo, etc. Then rent the other options noted above.
She’ll have an opinion, for sure. If it’s not my P365 or G19, then I’ll gift her one of mine if she prefers. If not, she can buy her own gun.
”Gun Guys” (and Gun Gals) will have many guns but I think she’ll just have one. Mom will just know where the gun she prefers is stored, so she can punch buttons to get it as needed. But she’d rather slice a miscreant in half with a naginata. Either way, the rugs will need shampooing.
We trained women with the same guns and same rounds as the men. Scores went up across the board when we switched to 9mm. With proper training, as I said earlier, it may not be best for 'dad' to give it to her, it's more about a gun that 'fits' her.i saw plenty of women handling 9mm guns at MFS range. p365 will work just fine, if it is already available.
just let her shoot one gun until she gets it well, and do not waste time with .22lr as all it matters for her is to be able to hit a 12" target from 5 yds.
(Did anyone else first parse that as,Yet to be determined - she hasn’t shot since a teenager.Is this for carry or home defense or both.
untrueold timers hate anything that is not round and does not turn around.
Introduce her to Lena Miculek NOW on YouTube.She’s 27, just finishing an amicable divorce (as amicable as they can be), and is moving from Nashua to Manchester to an apartment that‘s in an OK neighborhood but not immune from violent crime. I asked if she’d like to go to an NRA Refuse to be a Victim class together and she said, how about a gun class instead?
I took her and her younger brother shooting when young, so she’s shot 22 pistols and rifles, and a AR15. My son is just out of the 82nd Airborne as a SAW gunner, so he’s set, and in school down in NC. SIG Academy has excellent courses but is booked solid for months, so I’ll ask a local instructor whom I’ve known for decades for a dad-daughter class at a local commercial range to get started.
She’s pretty slight of stature, but fit and strong, so might manage my SIG P365 or Glock G43. If not, maybe a 380acp - I only have a KelTec P3AT…not a weapon fit for primary use. Her hands would never manage a G19. Are there other good options to consider?
The NRA RTBAV class is still in the plan - there’s so much more to personnel security and self-defense than being able to put holes in a target. She’s been to a Women;s Self-Defense 1-day class with my wife - we’re both martial arts instructors but prefer others teach our kids such skills…who listens to their parents until they turn 40?
Why DAO? Their triggers are usually so stiff that I can't imagine most people, particularly smaller ones, being able to hit anything.Snubby .38 revolver or small DAO pistol. Jack.
I disagree on small 9mm's for a female that hasn't fired pistols other than .22s extensively. With significant practice, yes, but not otherwise.Have to disagree on the P80 build.
Building Glocks is fun and not too challenging, but a lot of the parts sold s*ck major a**.
I just had to order some OEM parts for a Glock I build because the striker wasn't resetting. It worked for like 500 rounds, then one day it just stopped, nothing looked broken. It took me a few minutes, and some pics in a private message with other NES members, to figure it out. I said f*ck it and ordered OEM parts.
While it is not a big deal for me, it would be too much for someone that can barely remove the barrel of a gun.
I am also not sure I would want to trust my life to a P80 build.
My recommendations ...
365, I have the X, which if I remember correctly is the compact slide with the XL grips and it is great. That gun should fit most hand sizes comfortably, and SIG flooded the market so there is a ton of support and videos.
She could check out a Kahr as well. Many here dont like the trigger pull, too long for some, but the gun is probably the easiest 9mm to conceal.
Glock 43 is a good choice, up there with SIG 365.
A revolver could be good, but I am not a CCW revolver guy so I can't comment on that.
A .22 is only good to learn how to aim and how a semi works.I disagree on small 9mm's for a female that hasn't fired pistols other than .22s extensively. With significant practice, yes, but not otherwise.
I took her and her younger brother shooting when young, so she’s shot 22 pistols and rifles,