Of course as you must know there is a difference between Tyranny & the Rule of Law...A foundational difference between a country that enjoys the benefits of limited government, individual liberty, personal freedom and economic opportunity, and one that suffers under the yoke of tyranny is that the former observes the rule of law and the latter witnesses the rule of whim.
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Of course as you must know there is a difference between Tyranny & the Rule of Law...A foundational difference between a country that enjoys the benefits of limited government, individual liberty, personal freedom and economic opportunity, and one that suffers under the yoke of tyranny is that the former observes the rule of law and the latter witnesses the rule of whim.
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Really? I'm ignorant? If you can't see Barry's/repressive liberals plan which uses the lame stream media to demean cops, gun owners and anyone who disagrees with their radical ideology than I can't help you. It's not the cops, its you and me that they want to eliminate. They need the cops to protect them.
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Finalygotabeltfed
Then STOP protecting them.......its really that simple.
No they do not want to eliminate you, believe it or not US plebes are the foundation of Capitalism, its just some in the upper pyramid of said Capitalism are greedy with control. Once and a while the plebes need to stand up and put the Greedy back in check.
The Statists are in a conundrum: Dependents are pissed at the Agentsame of Big Government. It'seems like what the Dilbert guy said about Gun Control: Democrats want it because Democrats kill each other.
One needs guns to protect ones' family from Dependents of Big Government, and eventually perhaps the Agents of Big Government.
One needs guns to protect ones' family from Dependents of Big Government, and eventually perhaps the Agents of Big Government.
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Finalygotabeltfed
You are trying to isolate a single incident when the problem is epidemic and widespread.
We didn't end two world wars without civilian casualties either, they were part and parcel to the support mechanisms of their fellow countrymen in uniform.
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Hmm, so you think every cop that has to enforce a BS law should just quit? Not going to happen. Solution, get rid of the pols who propose and pass the BS laws that we hate. Whining about cops is useless, but getting rid of Pols who attack us is doable, it's called voting. As I've stated before we are our own worst enemies as this thread demonstrates.
Sparky123
NES Member
To tell you the truth, I don't give a crap what DHS or any other government agencies thinks or says. End of story.
No they do not want to eliminate you, believe it or not US plebes are the foundation of Capitalism, its just some in the upper pyramid of said Capitalism are greedy with control. Once and a while the plebes need to stand up and put the Greedy back in check.
All we need is a centrally planned government and all of the greedy will go away!
xtry51
NES Member
You're talking about something different. Mob rule.
Cops VOLUNTEER to do their jobs. So when they CHOOSE to enforce bad law, especially bad law in a way that they know was not intended, they are MORE guilty than the law writer.
Example, the recent shooting for a tail light out. That cop was not at all interested in the tail light, or anyone's safety while driving, period. Had he been, he would have simply walked up to the car and notified the driver of a light out. No, that's not what actually happened. What actually happened was a cop was using a shitty law to begin a fishing expedition so he could try to ruin a citizen's life over a tiny light bulb.
That's the shit I'm talking about. The cop is the immediate problem.
It's pretty funny that when it's for "someone in power" or one of their blue buddies, LOTS of cops suddenly forget there are any laws to be enforced. They make a choice on which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore all the time. They don't have to quit, they just have to make better choices.
That voting thing worked out swell in Greece. Big article in the Lowell sun last week featuring some of Lowell's finest who I know personally. The hypocrisy here is the officer ( remain nameless ) was preaching about cell phones and how driving with them distracts and is breaking the law and such. Yet I have seen said " law enforcer " doing the same thing texting and on the cell phone while out and about.
Don't preach rule of law to me unless you are gonna follow the same laws as well. They call that a DOUBLE STANDARD....
mibro
NES Member
I think what you're feeling is the internet echo chamber effect.
Look at the statistics and the exact opposite is true. Violent crime has been declining for decades.
Even this current Dallas shooting barely moves the needle on on-the-job police fatalities.
The exact same scenario has happened before, in 1973, btw. Five officers dead then also. Remember that one? Me neither.
"In 1973, Black Panther affiliate Mark Essex killed 9 people in two different sniper incidents. Five of the people killed were police officers. The rest were random white people."
No they do not want to eliminate you, believe it or not US plebes are the foundation of Capitalism, its just some in the upper pyramid of said Capitalism are greedy with control. Once and a while the plebes need to stand up and put the Greedy back in check.
Way to go all Stalin on us....yeah, class warfare is not the answer..
Robot Was There Also
Maybe some viagra will help.
Let me just assure you, and America, that you have nothing to worry about in that department. It's all good.
I think you are misreading the point made with said post....go back a few pages then get back to me.
I didn't see this anyplace but I think it makes sense in this thread too
2 cops shot this morning... Georgia and Missouri
https://www.rt.com/usa/350228-police-officer-killed-ballwin/
2 cops shot this morning... Georgia and Missouri
https://www.rt.com/usa/350228-police-officer-killed-ballwin/
There's a lot of people on the social webs thanking this traitor for what he did last night, it's sickening.
Exactly.
I don't remember where I saw it - but a few weeks back I listened to an interview with a guy who claimed to have been an "ex-leftist" - who had turned FBI informant. What he claimed was going on was that a lot of the leftist / commie groups which were largely white , were being overtaken by militant BLM / commie /socialist types who were black, and they were talking about using violence to do things like take down the Republican convention.
I could find the interview if interested - but it correlates with what you're saying.
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I think you're wrong about that - there is organization going on there, even if it's behind the scenes.
It has seemed like it since 2003 or so, but in the grand scheme of things life in the U.S. is still super awesome. I have a hard time picturing the drooling masses of Americans standing up for any kind of principle as long as Starbucks is still open and the violence is contained to where the black people live.
This election cycle is a great example of what I mean. The Republican candidate is campaigning against free trade and in favor of manufacturing jobs. The Democrat is campaigning to transfer more wealth into the knowledge economy which excludes pretty much every low income person in the country. The vast majority of people don't even know what they believe in...they just believe that their person is good and the other person is evil. I don't know that that is enough to cast the shit into the fan.
It's probably going to take a lot more impact to the majority of Americans' lives to get them to wake up and start thinking about what's going on again. By that point it will be too late, as we have seen over and over again throughout history, and the correction will probably be worse than most of us can imagine.
Speaking for myself, yes, a cop should choose to quit rather than enforce bad law. Why won't it happen? I'll answer that for you: the cop favors money over doing the right thing. He is culpable for that choice.
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and citizens vote for the pols who want to take away our rights, they're called repressive liberals and we interact with them every day in this anti-freedom State. THEY are our true enemies, not cops. Now am I saying I love cops, NO. A lot of them are petty bullies and *******s but THEY are not the problem. It's our supposed fellow citizens who are the problem. Remember, Barry O. and his fellow anti-American Dems brought us this tyrannical govt. and we're bitching about cops? Cut the head of the beast off and then clean up the mess.
richc
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A lot of police have the "golden handcuffs" on. They're family guys and gals with a bunch of years on the force. They have wives, kids, ex-wives and more. The likelihood they will get another job with the same salary level, overtime pay, paid details, benefits and job security is small. If they're over 40 it will be hard to get another job in another field.
IMHO that's a big part of why they stay...
Agree.
The best thing they could do for their cause right now is GET organized, condemn this incident, and basically say that they think a serious dialogue between them and police departments has to begin.
I don't really think there is enough organization and focus to do that, though. To do that, I think they would need to shift towards addressing this as a police violence problem, and a violence problem in general (i.e. within poor communities, etc.) They would need to take it to the next level in terms of showing that they are organized, powerful, and have an agenda that doesn't create too much divisiveness. Not to say they have to drop the fact that this happens to black people so much more often, but they would need to focus on solutions more than the problem.
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We all have to compromise our beliefs to survive in the modern world unless you live off the grid. We live in one of the most egregious States for rights in America so we swallow hard every day to support our families and make a living. Our fellow citizens give us the finger every day, we have taxation without representation, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my freedom by doing what I would like to do to them. They are winning the war because the lamestream media supports their repressive ideology and to many of our fellow citizens are either to lazy or stupid to resist.
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Who am I PROTECTING?
YES.
And thus, the reset.
We all have to sleep at night, then wake up in the morning and look in the mirror. The "thin blue line" should not be able to do either of those things.
Either police officers have integrity, or they do not. Every single one that does (and there have to be tens of thousands) should not tolerate any who do not. And yet they do.
Gotta choose sides at some point.
That doesn't prove anything.
There's already been multiple cases of people who were were US military vets who were "bangers" when they got out.
Old story history repeating itself circa 1933 Germany...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic
If only cell phones were outlawed only outlaws would have....![[thinking]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/010.gif "Thinking [thinking]")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic
If only cell phones were outlawed only outlaws would have....
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