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Did not catch that. So, he ordered something online and had the LGS do transfer and the LGS had the same model on the wall? Yeah, that’s only gonna piss the guy off.OPs experience was with an FFL doing a transfer - didn't buy the gun from the FFL. OP would be crazy to expect customer service from the FFL when the FFL didn't sell the gun.
DOH!! OP was lucky the guy didn't laugh him out of the store.Did not catch that. So, he ordered something online and had the LGS do transfer and the LGS had the same model on the wall? Yeah, that’s only gonna piss the guy off.
Damn, I missed that part.OPs experience was with an FFL doing a transfer - didn't buy the gun from the FFL. OP would be crazy to expect customer service from the FFL when the FFL didn't sell the gun.
And the shop while you're at it.OUT THE GUN AND MANUFACTURER!
Did I miss the part where he had a couple on the shelf available? I assumed (ya I know) the FFL dealer and transfer were the same transaction. Not a transfer but I could be all wet.OPs experience was with an FFL doing a transfer - didn't buy the gun from the FFL. OP would be crazy to expect customer service from the FFL when the FFL didn't sell the gun.
Why would someone drive 60 miles to transfer a gun? The impression im getting was that he drove there to buy the gun. Guessing this shop was the closest who had what he wanted... or maybe im misunderstanding as well.
Looked on-line and saw that I might have to file down the mag catch as it might not be grabbing the magazine. Not wild about doing this on an expensive gun. But I"d rather it work than be an expesive paperwieght.
Just jumping back on the PC this AM. Saw a gun on armslist, contacted the FFL. The FFL had bought 10 of the guns direct from the MFG. Had 8 other customers on a waitlist for them. He had 2 left over. He put the other two on Armslist. Drove far because I haven't seen them around here. So he did not order the gun for me.
Holding off on listing the gun and manufacturer. Legal in MA, but I'm sure there will be a few dozen people on wanting to split hairs about this and I don't want to get into the back and fourth about that.
Sounds like you are a quirky fella. But I wish you well with the deviant gun and hope you get it fixed.Holding off on listing the gun and manufacturer. Legal in MA, but I'm sure there will be a few dozen people on wanting to split hairs about this and I don't want to get into the back and fourth about that.
If that is the case and the FFL is purposely selling a shit gun then they should be outed. Of course we don't know if that is the case. I think far to often people make excuses for bad behavior. I often ask myself is that something i would do. 99% of the time if i have to ask, i already know the answer is no. That being said there is one shop in that area that i know of and have done lots of business with them and would be shocked if he was the one in question here. I also don't believe he does anything on armslist.Sounds like the first few guys in had the pick of the litter. This is why we find a good FFL and support them.
Many yeras ago (under previous ownership) I went with a new shooter to Collectors Coin Gallery where he was going to buy a 1911 since the ink had just dried on his LTC. We and I looked the gun, and I asked the owner "I want to inspect this for defects, do you mind if I field strip it or would you prefer to?" The response was "That gun is not getting field stripped until it is paid for".I know, made the same mistake too. Got a brand new handgun from a place I have a good relationship with. Guy even got a brand new one still in the wrapping from the back. Looked at it closer at home, and it had some tooling marks and scratches, I was told I should never have accepted it, etc. I'm waiting to hear back from the manufacturer. Stinks, and I thought I'd be fine getting a BNIB one, but it happens. I feel you, kind of annoying.
Yeah, the wife asked the same question....didn't you try it out before you bought it?
I think I actually ran through one of the Intarweb function check listsGood lesson in doing full function checks on a gun before you buy it.
NIB can be a POSYeah, the wife asked the same question....didn't you try it out before you bought it?
My bad, but thought that a NIB gun would actually work
Im not sure I want anyone tearing down a new gun ?Many yeras ago (under previous ownership) I went with a new shooter to Collectors Coin Gallery where he was going to buy a 1911 since the ink had just dried on his LTC. We and I looked the gun, and I asked the owner "I want to inspect this for defects, do you mind if I field strip it or would you prefer to?" The response was "That gun is not getting field stripped until it is paid for".
I asked "what about if there is a tooling mark or defect?" ... "That would be your problem as we would no longer own the gun, but we would send it back to the factory for warranty service for you".
Never went back to that shop.
As you get more experience, you get better at spotting defects on new or used guns. For example, never buy a used handgun without having the seller take off the grips. I've seen used guns that look 90%+ and were impeccably maintained - except the owner never took the grips off for cleaning resulting in unseen corrosion. I was helping someone with a used gun buy at a shop based on a listing, and that owner was very helpful and sent us photos of both side of the guns with grips removed and were able to proceed with the buy.
Yep. That's the other side of the coin. Rob may be able to flawlessly disassemble and reassemble a 1911 blindfolded without so much as leaving a fingerprint... but I'll bet that some other curious customers are not nearly so skilled. In fact, I've witnessed it on guns I was mildly interested in... and ran away fast.I'm not sure I want anyone tearing down a new gun? What if you f*** it up? Then what?
Agreed, which is why I asked the shop owner "May I field strip this or would you prefer to?". The issue was not offense at them not trusting my skills, but at not allowing a complete pre-purchase inspection, using the professional's expertise to prevent any handling damage.Yep. That's the other side of the coin. Rob may be able to flawlessly disassemble and reassemble a 1911 blindfolded without so much as leaving a fingerprint... but I'll bet that some other curious customers are not nearly so skilled. In fact, I've witnessed it on guns I was mildly interested in... and ran away fast.
You give a lot more credit to some gun shop clerks than I do. Not all, but enough so that I know not to ask them for a field stripping to take a look. Can you say "flying and dropped" gun parts?Agreed, which is why I asked the shop owner "May I field strip this or would you prefer to?". The issue was not offense at them not trusting my skills, but at not allowing a complete pre-purchase inspection, using the professional's expertise to prevent any handling damage.
I’d remember that experience and react in kind.The least the dealer could of done was to offer to send it back for him. In the past I was a part time FFL dealer for about 25 years and mostly sold at gun shows. I only had 0ne problem with a new gun not functioning correctly. Buyer called me and I explained that I would be at a show in 2 weeks and to bring it in I would take care of sending it back. That customer later purchase 2 more guns from me in 8 months. A little customer service goes a long way.
Used gun sure , new gun I would respect a NO from the FFLYep. That's the other side of the coin. Rob may be able to flawlessly disassemble and reassemble a 1911 blindfolded without so much as leaving a fingerprint... but I'll bet that some other curious customers are not nearly so skilled. In fact, I've witnessed it on guns I was mildly interested in... and ran away fast.
Respect as in accept the authority of the FFL to make the decision - yes.Used gun sure , new gun I would respect a NO from the FFL