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Lol this isn't anything new. Thus is a downstream result of "almost no looney bins" america clown world.....Told you all lot of people will go nut as things go to shit. This is why i carry lot of mags.of all the shitholes cities that i been to worcester is not that bad lol.
Lol this isn't anything new. Thus is a downstream result of "almost no looney bins" america clown world.....
He was Hispanic.what!!!! white on white crime??? nooooooo, say it ain't so...
Not sure what those are but I'd get behind it!+1
Bring back the booby hatches.
the other white meat.He was Hispanic.
Leaving aside the fact that you can sue anyone for any reason in this country.... Yes they absolutely do. For that matter, since the doctors are acting on behalf of the state when making the determination, they could probably sue the state as well as the doctors.Do the victims have any ability to sue the psychiatric professionals who let him out just the day before because "he wasn't a threat?"
He looked to be younger, taller and stomped on the victim's head. I wouldve given his family a closed casket funeral to enjoy.It appears from the video footage that non-lethal force may have been a reasonable consideration under the circumstances. It also appears that the victim in the gas station incident was in “code white” and disbelief and could only muster to duck-and-cover and not even create distance. He’s lucky the assailant did not revert to more lethal force.
Worcester is upscale homieTold you all lot of people will go nut as things go to shit. This is why i carry lot of mags.of all the shitholes cities that i been to worcester is not that bad lol.
the only functional mental care facilities left in this country are jails. so, perhaps 'doctors' just let it go how it was supposed to go.lol..."he was hospitalized with mental health issues....doctors determined he did not pose a risk to others."
the only functional mental care facilities left in this country are jails. so, perhaps 'doctors' just let it go how it was supposed to go.
Self-styled satanist beheaded his cellmate in Central Valley prison, but guards didn’t notice, state reports say
Shortly after the sadistic torture slaying and beheading of a convicted killer in a California prison, apparently at the hands of his cellmate, prison guards making their rounds reported that both …ktla.com
Not sure what those are but I'd get behind it!
He looked to be younger, taller and stomped on the victim's head. I wouldve given his family a closed casket funeral to enjoy.
Since this instance is in close geographic proximity to many of us, I think it’s worth a more detailed discussion.
I’m not an attorney, but to add to the discussion, the relative appearance of a disparity in age and height is generally not a reasonable justification for use of force because proportionality still exists — both men appeared to be mid-20 to mid-30 age males in average physical condition (no physical mobility aids, etc) — if it was a 20-something gym rat versus an elderly person, it may be reasonable to assume a disparity, but without having any prior knowledge of a mental health issue of the assailant it may be perceived by any jury as two “average” guys in an altercation. While the news story reports there was no prior exchange, who know what the assailant may allege after the fact.
Of course, once the assailant began to stomp on the victim’s head, one could assume fear of grave bodily harm to the victim. At what point does bystander intervention become reasonable? Are you going to fear jail time up to life in prison for a stranger? Would you intervene as a bystander in the act of battery and risk the assailant direct the violence at you? I mean these as rhetorical questions —
Merely drawing your CCW and issuing a verbal command is brandishing and the assailant can allege they felt threatened, leading to an assault charge, arrest, loosing 2A rights and thousands of dollars in legal fees.
Is aiding a bystander morally “worth it”? If you were the individual being assaulted would escalating the encounter by drawing your firearm be the justified response? Now you’ve introduced the gun into the fight. Even many people who train marksmanship regularly do not regularly train weapons retention techniques.
I think it’s all reasonable to ask and consider the “what if it were me...” scenarios. I’m just not sure I have all the answers. Just my $0.02...
I’d be interested to hear @Len-2A Training opinion, as I think this provides a good learning opportunity.