sadly, there likely will be or already are serious posts in this thread along these lines, so you will have to forgive us going all super serial on you...Oh come on. Sarcasm isn't fun if you have to explain when it's happening.
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sadly, there likely will be or already are serious posts in this thread along these lines, so you will have to forgive us going all super serial on you...Oh come on. Sarcasm isn't fun if you have to explain when it's happening.
sadly, there likely will be or already are serious posts in this thread along these lines, so you will have to forgive us going all super serial on you...
Having a dude in the military who can't follow orders, now that is a threat, but one solved with a dishonorable discharge.
I was broadly inferring from the factual reality that he brought the guns in. I cannot see how that could happen without at least violating a standing general order if not a specific order given when packing/loading to come back.Where did they say that? He just stole from the US government, which you think they'd be used to it by now! lol
Even after WWII there we forms to fill out and NFA34 to contend with.Long gone are the days when you can bring home stuff from war. A damn shame too.
I was broadly inferring from the factual reality that he brought the guns in. That is what I meant by "not following orders."
If you fought in Fallijah, and want to bring back some spoils of war, have at it.
Now that sounds logical.
I thought it used to be that way.
Free housing, free food, free medical, free retirement and a comely orange jumpsuit.Used to be, but worry not, in future wars everyone will get a trophy.
...for having been married.A high price to pay...
A Glock and a live smoke grenade
He might be a scumbag for other things he's done, but punish him for that shit, not for simply possessing something that the government has decided is "extra eeevil and killy" when anyone with a brain knows better.
-Mike
He sold either the MP5 or FA FAL for $500 then gave the other away - woah.
I see this differently. A man (his military background here does not mean anyting to me in this story) illegally imported a machine gun (I'm going to assumue that in this case it really was automatic given where it came from). He then illegally possessed/stored etc. said gun. This is a felony. It doesn't matter if we think he or we should be allowed to own it. He broke the law. Whether I agree with the law is a different story. However, as a gun owner, a-holes like this piss me off because they bring negative publicity on a nationwide scale to firearms issues that feed anti's and anti-gun media outlets. I'm not on this guys side...let him serve the two full years.
was it a fo-tay? they might've been referring to the same device
If he was Dishonorably Discharged, does that make him a Prohibited Person? I don't remember seeing that question on a LTC application or the 4473, but not being a veteran I really wouldn't pay attention to it.
No, but even if this guy never happened, they'd still be pushing for bans, so there is no sense in getting our collective gun owning panties in a bunch over bad eggs.Agreed that the law sucks. I don't feel actions like this guys will help change it (and I'd like it changed), thus he pisses me off. This story makes me want an MP5
I'm told even some Senators from MA did it.didn't our forefathers do this all the time in ww1 and ww2?
this comment infuriates me. Because it sounds like you are justifying his punishment through his other unrelated poor behavior.
People like you are stupid.
+1Sounds like it was actually the wife possessing it.
Run around and flap you arms in outrage all you want, Shirley. The loser smuggled illegal NFA weapons into the country, sold two of them illegally, and he was caught with the one he kept. There's nothing gray here; it's black letter law, and he knew he was violating it. This isn't some guy whose AR doubled when dirty, or some esoteric reading of an obscure law. This is a guy CHOOSING to commit a felony. He knew what he was doing was wrong.
When did NES start rooting for the guys who knowingly violate the law? I thought gun owners prided themselves on being the good guys, the ones who follow the laws. All of them, not just the ones we find convenient, or the ones we like. If you don't like the law, you change it. You don't knowingly violate it.
And that makes me stupid? People like you embarrass legitimate gun owners everywhere.
read your first post. Then read this one. You are saying two different things, only because I caught your dumbass running your mouth, and now you're reeling.
The man did something illegal and got caught for it, yes. This is fact. But when you justified his punishment (in your first post) through convincing yourself that this man must be terrible, by reading things that the media has dug up in order to make him look even worse, you are only proliferating the reasons why the media adds this shit in there in the first place.
Put your small man angry attitude aside for one second and think: the media dangled a worm, and you bit. Not only did you bite, but you're mad about it and you've already made up your mind that this man is a bad man, and that he's doing us no favors.
You are stupid. Just like the public that the media contorts. Thanks for making it worse by not thinking.
If your post would have stated that "he broke the law, what did he expect?" that you're digging up in your 2nd post in order to save face from looking like a total dumbass, you wouldn't have had me crawl up your ass. But you didn't. So expect it.
Did you learn today? I'm sick of this shit from you.
You are one strange, angry little man. My point is consistent start to finish. The guy is a dirtbag, and deserves whatever comes his way.
This guy is a felon, dishonorably discharged from the .mil for lying and stealing. And they don't give DD's for confusing Monday and Friday on your travel voucher. A dishonorable discharge takes pretty egregious behavior. (Flintoid, egregious means extraordinary in some bad way). AND the guy smuggles illegal NFA weapons into the country. And you hold him up as the poster boy being hounded by the bad old Government. Bullshit.
What I learned today is something I already knew: just because you're a gun owner doesn't mean you're not an anti-social dick. Mom's basement, indeed.