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Perhaps I could have worded it without throwing insults at your intelligence. It makes me wonder that if I had approached it that way in the first place, perhaps you would have learned something? If so, then that's definitely on me.
Your point has been consistent, then. You read into the facts shared by this single piece of media, have already passed judgement on the man for being an evil piece of crap, and now you're done. Obviously he was evil- the media told you so. And he's a gun owner. So that must be evil, right?
No, Einstein. He's not evil because he's a gun owner. He's "an evil piece of crap" because he's a convicted liar, thief, and smuggler and seller of illegal NFA weapons. These aren't allegations. They're not rumor or innuendo. No one said he's evil because he owns guns. (Except, of course, you.) He knowingly and willingly broke the law. That makes him a shitbag in my book. I guess it makes him a role-model in yours.
Double-check your prescriptions, take your meds, and everything will be calm again soon. Deep breaths.
Another outyourself thread.Did I ever say that he was a role model?
All I am asking is that you check yourself at the door before you start playing into media hype that makes gun owners look bad. Granted, my method of this was poor because it's fun kicking media drones like you, but that's all I ever slapped you about.
and seller of illegal NFA weapons. These aren't allegations.
Another outyourself thread.
Gun owners in anti' states need to take a harder look at how changes in social attitudes about "groups" that the "mainstream" doesn't like.
It isn't a matter of changing yourself to make them more comfortable. It is a matter of forcing them to realize that their intolerance and ignorance is their problem, not yours and you won't tolerate them treating you badly or as anything less than an equal before the law.
It is a matter of making them, rightfully, uncomfortable for generalizing and stereotyping to justify their abuse of your rights. Apologizing and "getting in line" with their way of thinking and acceptable behavior doesn't work. You give an inch, they take a mile.
I believe it's question on the 4473, and yes, it does make one a PP.
-Mike
I'm glad someone is a bit more calm and fluent with words than I am. I'll shut up so you can pull anyone like ScottS back to the "correct" side.
this is why you don't marry [STRIKE= ]a ****ing bitch[/STRIKE].
so just because something is against the law it is okay even if that law is unjust?
I was going to troll and be like "Oh, go vote for Romney, Scott." and then I saw his avatar and was like "oh, nevermind."
Anyway, the Marine here wasnt bothering me, or anyone else. He broke a law that is against "Shall not be infringed," ergo, I'm not in support of the law. What he did in the Corps to get thrown out is another story, and has nothing to do with breaking stupid NFA laws that shouldnt be around in the 1st place.
this is why you don't marry a ****ing bitch.
Gotta love the threads where people support sending a guy to jail for not hurting anybody.
Run around and flap you arms in outrage all you want, Shirley. The loser smuggled illegal NFA weapons into the country, sold two of them illegally, and he was caught with the one he kept. There's nothing gray here; it's black letter law, and he knew he was violating it. This isn't some guy whose AR doubled when dirty, or some esoteric reading of an obscure law. This is a guy CHOOSING to commit a felony. He knew what he was doing was wrong.
When did NES start rooting for the guys who knowingly violate the law? I thought gun owners prided themselves on being the good guys, the ones who follow the laws. All of them, not just the ones we find convenient, or the ones we like. If you don't like the law, you change it. You don't knowingly violate it.
And that makes me stupid? People like you embarrass legitimate gun owners everywhere.
There comes a point where you realize theres too many stupid people out there who want to restrict your rights and you cant get these unconstitutional laws changed. You then have to make a decision whether you will continue to follow those laws, this man decided he would take his chances, it didnt work out so great for him. Im sure there are hundreds or even thousands of people who ignored this same law and have yet to be caught. Now if only the NRA or ACLU would have come to this guys defense and the case were a few years earlier, we might have had a supreme court willing to fix this travesty they call a law.
I see this differently. A man (his military background here does not mean anyting to me in this story) illegally imported a machine gun (I'm going to assumue that in this case it really was automatic given where it came from). He then illegally possessed/stored etc. said gun. This is a felony. It doesn't matter if we think he or we should be allowed to own it. He broke the law. Whether I agree with the law is a different story. However, as a gun owner, a-holes like this piss me off because they bring negative publicity on a nationwide scale to firearms issues that feed anti's and anti-gun media outlets. I'm not on this guys side...let him serve the two full years.
Agreed. The law is the law, and when you break the law, you get in trouble. And what kind of retard leaves shit like that with his EX-WIFE?!!! He deserved to get bagged!
Some day, someone needs to fight this. It is about having the same arms as the military.A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Some day, someone needs to fight this. It is about having the same arms as the military.A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
this comment infuriates me. Because it sounds like you are justifying his punishment through his other unrelated poor behavior.
People like you are stupid.
Thanks for your service. Now just put your hands behind your back please, sir.
So he should get a free pass because he was a vet?
Gotta love the threads where people support sending a guy to jail for not hurting anybody.
in Scotts world, absolutely.
Run around and flap you arms in outrage all you want, Shirley. The loser smuggled illegal NFA weapons into the country, sold two of them illegally, and he was caught with the one he kept. There's nothing gray here; it's black letter law, and he knew he was violating it. This isn't some guy whose AR doubled when dirty, or some esoteric reading of an obscure law. This is a guy CHOOSING to commit a felony. He knew what he was doing was wrong.
When did NES start rooting for the guys who knowingly violate the law? I thought gun owners prided themselves on being the good guys, the ones who follow the laws. All of them, not just the ones we find convenient, or the ones we like. If you don't like the law, you change it. You don't knowingly violate it.
And that makes me stupid? People like you embarrass legitimate gun owners everywhere.