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Um, probably cuz so many others out there have been already rushed to condemn, try, convict, incarcerate and completely screw him..... F*ck due process and the presumption of innocence....Ummm... He shot someone through the front door at noon time on a Saturday. This is almost like a road rage incident where one driver shoots the other through the driver side window because the other guy was yelling at them and they got scared.
Just looking at Google maps street view. He lives in a dense residential neighborhood. The homeowner put everyone there in danger with his itchy trigger finger. Not sure why so many here are defending this guy.
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x5f1e3da8dd88779a!6m1!1e1
I though the self defense strategy thing was to set a "mental threshold/trigger point" as well as yell.. "Police are on their way, If you come through that door I will shoot you!" and If they step over the threshold, do just that. They are not a threat until they are IN your house... Unless they have molotov cocktails or something. I have no idea about the legal fur flying frenzy that that would entail.
I thought the perp had a gun and was pointing it at me, while threatening to kill me.
Enough for a Jury to say not guilty.
Some places yes, others no. Kentucky law here:
503.055 Use of defensive force regarding dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle -- Exceptions.
(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering or had unlawfully and forcibly entered a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person's will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) of this section does not apply if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;
(b) The person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of the person against whom the defensive force is used;
(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or
(d) The person against whom the defensive force is used is a peace officer, as defined in KRS 446.010, who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties, and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a peace officer.
(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a felony involving the use of force.
(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person's dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
Effective: July 12, 2006
History: Created 2006 Ky. Acts ch. 192, sec. 2, effective July 12, 2006.
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Kentucky law favors the victim, not the criminal.
Ummm... He shot someone through the front door at noon time on a Saturday. This is almost like a road rage incident where one driver shoots the other through the driver side window because the other guy was yelling at them and they got scared.
Just looking at Google maps street view. He lives in a dense residential neighborhood. The homeowner put everyone there in danger with his itchy trigger finger. Not sure why so many here are defending this guy.
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x5f1e3da8dd88779a!6m1!1e1
You're never going to convince me this guy couldn't find some cover or concealment, actually wait until he could, y'know, see a target, and then shoot it from a safe position. It's his own house; doesn't he know where he can go to range the door safely? Don't all of us on NES?
God forbid we actually expect our fellow gun owners to do something crazy like "identify their target" before opening fire. Ain't no way you can possibly "know your target and what's beyond" when the door is closed.
Not sure why this guy's got so many defenders here. Irresponsible gun handling in spades; I'm not about to applaud it.
This is truly a ****ed up situation. I really feel sorry for both sides. But there's a shit of things I'd like to know... Did the guy have kids home with him, was there more than one guy outside the door, how did the glass get broken....
I'm not whole heartily supporting the guy but what if this was the true story...
Numerous break-ins in the area, so he's probably already a little on edge. Guys home with two kids playing in the other room when suddenly there pounding on the back-door. Someone's shouting to let "us" in, homeowner calls cops and grabs his gun, when suddenly, the guy outside breaks the glass to get in...
Door or no door, im sure a lot of us would do what we deemed best to protect our kids.
pounding on door okay call the police. Breaking window and hand going in to open the lock, shoot if you truly feel like your life is in danger. I wonder what the situation would look like if he was an elderly woman and shot.This is truly a ****ed up situation. I really feel sorry for both sides. But there's a shit of things I'd like to know... Did the guy have kids home with him, was there more than one guy outside the door, how did the glass get broken....
I'm not whole heartily supporting the guy but what if this was the true story...
Numerous break-ins in the area, so he's probably already a little on edge. Guys home with two kids playing in the other room when suddenly there pounding on the back-door. Someone's shouting to let "us" in, homeowner calls cops and grabs his gun, when suddenly, the guy outside breaks the glass to get in...
Door or no door, im sure a lot of us would do what we deemed best to protect our kids.
I agree with your position to a point, but he still could have done as someone else mentioned, and got some cover to get the drop on the intruder. He would have not been in any worse danger, had a clear shot, and best of all, NOT be going to jail.
The old saying that "Every bullet comes with a lawyer attached" still abides.Even in free states with castle doctrine, outside house = bad shoot, inside house = good shoot.
pounding on door okay call the police. Breaking window and hand going in to open the lock, shoot if you truly feel like your life is in danger. I wonder what the situation would look like if he was an elderly woman and shot.
Here's hoping I get called for jury duty.
Always drag the deceased's body indoors; destroy drag marks; then call 911