CEO of Southcoast Hospitals Busted for Assault and Gun Charges

Rob Boudrie said:
Look at the description in the model jury instructions:


Note the part about how the defendant must have "known" the gun was possessed, and must have also known the item was a firearm with the common meaning of that term. If similar instructions are given for a post-ban mag case, the prosecution would have to prove that the defendant (a) know he possessed the mag and (b) knew the mag was post-ban. So, it could hurt the defendant if the prosecution found a post by a defendant bragging about his expertise in identification of post ban mags, and listing all sorts of way to tell that the mags he possessed are post-ban.

If this defendant does go to trial, I would hope that any competent attorney would cite these model jury instructions and argue for similar on the magazine double-knowledge (know posses, know post ban).
Click to expand...
I haven't the foggiest notion how to tell if a magazine is preban. I'm sure no shop would ever sell an illegal mag so I assume any mag I've bought in Mass is preban or otherwise legal.
 
Rob Boudrie said:
Look at the description in the model jury instructions:


Note the part about how the defendant must have "known" the gun was possessed, and must have also known the item was a firearm with the common meaning of that term. If similar instructions are given for a post-ban mag case, the prosecution would have to prove that the defendant (a) know he possessed the mag and (b) knew the mag was post-ban. So, it could hurt the defendant if the prosecution found a post by a defendant bragging about his expertise in identification of post ban mags, and listing all sorts of way to tell that the mags he possessed are post-ban.

If this defendant does go to trial, I would hope that any competent attorney would cite these model jury instructions and argue for similar on the magazine double-knowledge (know posses, know post ban).
Click to expand...
Ok, so was WAS his NES screen name?

No longer a joke question.
 
His anti-AR letter may have been part of a career strategy.

There are certain opinions you are supposed to have in the health care business. It may not make a difference if a doctor is a shooter, but taking a position in favor of gun rights would no be a strategically good move for a hospital CEO of someone who strives to become one.
 
Rob Boudrie said:
His anti-AR letter may have been part of a career strategy.

There are certain opinions you are supposed to have in the health care business. It may not make a difference if a doctor is a shooter, but taking a position in favor of gun rights would no be a strategically good move for a hospital CEO of someone who strives to become one.
Click to expand...

…which makes me far less sympathetic to these sell-out NIMBY types.
 
Rob Boudrie said:
His anti-AR letter may have been part of a career strategy.

There are certain opinions you are supposed to have in the health care business. It may not make a difference if a doctor is a shooter, but taking a position in favor of gun rights would no be a strategically good move for a hospital CEO of someone who strives to become one.
Click to expand...
Oh definitely. Read some of the other lefty BS that comes out of that organization. But that just makes him a fraud and a hypocrite of the first order. Screw him. :mad:
 
Updates... not much new.

sippican.theweektoday.com

Hovan bench trial set for Dec. 20

A Dec. 20 bench trial has been set for Keith Hovan, the president and CEO of Southcoast Health, on assault and battery charges. Hovan attended the proceedings, which were held at Wareham District Court, via Zoom. The CEO waived his right to a trial...
sippican.theweektoday.com sippican.theweektoday.com

www.wickedlocal.com

Bench trial scheduled on domestic A & B charge against Southcoast CEO Keith Hovan

Hovan was arrested on the domestic A&B charge after police were called to his home by a 911 call from his minor daughter that her parents were arguing.
www.wickedlocal.com
 
Rob Boudrie said:
The quote about 12 rounds was from the article, not the troll
Click to expand...

lol. It would have been stupid if they said 10 round “clip” but where does the 12 come from? I’ve never heard 12 for a magazine or “clip.

Btw, what a rocket this case is. Arrested the beginning of November and a trial date a month and a half later?
 
The assault and battery charges will most likely go away since the people involved aren’t saying anything. Without the assault and battery, the police basically suspended his license, searched his home and confiscated items for no reason. The quick bench trial is probably so he can work things out privately with the judge then be on his way for Christmas vacation.
 
Compooky said:
The assault and battery charges will most likely go away since the people involved aren’t saying anything. Without the assault and battery, the police basically suspended his license, searched his home and confiscated items for no reason. The quick bench trial is probably so he can work things out privately with the judge then be on his way for Christmas vacation.
Click to expand...
Does that mean he wont get busted for the Hi Caps?
 
Reptile said:
Does that mean he wont get busted for the Hi Caps?
Click to expand...

A disadvantage of a bench trial is we will not be able to see the jury instructions and learn if the defendant only needed to know he possessed the mags, or if he also needed to know they were pre-ban.
 
EJFudd said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is a nice little fix being worked out behind the scenes to make all this pesky ugliness go away. [thinking]
Click to expand...
I hope so. I hope he can use his stature to get off or get off easy. Nothing wrong with that. We all use connections when we can to "bend" things.
 
Rob Boudrie said:
A disadvantage of a bench trial is we will not be able to see the jury instructions and learn if the defendant only needed to know he possessed the mags, or if he also needed to know they were pre-ban.
Click to expand...

He’s only on trial for the A&B and related charges, not the mags. He hasn’t even been arraigned on the magazines so that trial if it ever happens is well off in the future
 
well his lawyer must be pretty confident the Judges down there are going to be push overs, and/or the wife and kids are going to be out of the country and refuse to testify, that leaves only his statements to hang him on the A&B charges.

Either that or the lawyer doesn't feel he can win in front of a jury or on appeal.

Is it still the case in MA that you do not get two bites at the apple like it was in the good old days... if you opt for a bench trial and it doesn't go your way , you can't ask for a jury trial?
 
They got
appraiser said:
Is it still the case in MA that you do not get two bites at the apple like it was in the good old days... if you opt for a bench trial and it doesn't go your way , you can't ask for a jury trial?
Click to expand...
They got rid of that option years ago.
 
I thought that was the case but I was not sure..... it has been a long time since I have been in a court room
 
HARRYM said:
That's what bench trials are famous for, fixing cases and making them go away.
Click to expand...
What I find curious is that the charges were "dismissed", rather than a finding of "not guilty" at a bench trail. Is this some sort of thing designed to help the prosecution save face?
 
Yeah we knew the assault charges would be dropped the witness wasn’t going to testify against him that would only totally destroy all of their lives.

Now the big question is does that take away the probable cause that led to the discovery? Hmmm..
 

Similar threads

What's acceptable Secure Storage for gun safes, guns and ammo in MA when in moving transition for an extended period of time?
Replies
24
Views
510
houdini
houdini
The 10 Commandments of Gun Safety
Replies
2
Views
269
deerdad
deerdad
Falmouth "cache" busted
2 3
Replies
67
Views
3K
Glockster30
Glockster30
Crooks Crash Forklift Through Front Doors Of NC Gun Shop
Replies
12
Views
330
Garys
Garys
Machine guns/NFA Shoot June 2nd and I'm in need of an ammo vender
Replies
0
Views
103
kingson
kingson
Back
Top Bottom