Blueskyday
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GOAL - GunLawListeningTour
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Today at cape cod community college.
6-8pm
Tilden auditorium.
Sorry if dupe?
First I heard of it.
My girl works there and she had no idea...
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I like to attend these things to see them for myself when I can, as I have learned they will not be reported accurately in the media.Having attended and spoke at the last "listening tour" back ~2014, I can tell you that they aren't listening. They already know what they plan on doing, and they are just glad-handing the gun owners. Folks should still go, put together a succinct argument against any further intrusions on the 2nd A and support GOAL. Just don't expect that they will listen and respond favorably on Bacon Hill!
I also attended a few of these then, and I agree with your sentiment. Our state rep ended up coming up to our club, taking the LTC class and getting her license after speaking with some members at one of the events, and turned out to actually be a pretty decent human being. So it definitely wasn't time wasted.Having attended and spoke at the last "listening tour" back ~2014, I can tell you that they aren't listening. They already know what they plan on doing, and they are just glad-handing the gun owners. Folks should still go, put together a succinct argument against any further intrusions on the 2nd A and support GOAL. Just don't expect that they will listen and respond favorably on Bacon Hill!
Still looking, howeverWhat other stops do we know about on this tour?
I can't believe it has been 9 years. Naughton cannot be trusted. At the last moment I remember they 'accidentally' posting the wrong address for at least two of the meetings and phucked with the starting times.Having attended and spoke at the last "listening tour" back ~2014, I can tell you that they aren't listening. They already know what they plan on doing, and they are just glad-handing the gun owners. Folks should still go, put together a succinct argument against any further intrusions on the 2nd A and support GOAL. Just don't expect that they will listen and respond favorably on Bacon Hill!
A public commenter asked Kelley Cunningham of the MA DPH if firearms only represent 21% of suicides (that was the number presented during the meeting), what the top three methods used were? She responded #1 was by hanging, then #2 and #3 were roughly a tie between firearms and drug overdose.Re suicide, in Mass firearms are used in less than 25% on average (22% in 2020). Hanging is by far the most popular method, double that of fireams (45%).
Having attended and spoke at the last "listening tour" back ~2014, I can tell you that they aren't listening. They already know what they plan on doing, and they are just glad-handing the gun owners. Folks should still go, put together a succinct argument against any further intrusions on the 2nd A and support GOAL. Just don't expect that they will listen and respond favorably on Bacon Hill!
I never got that.I responded to many suicides and attempted suicides over more than 30 years and not 1 used a gun. Most used a rope.
There were over 2,000 opiod overdose deaths from Oct 2019 to March 2021 source https://www.mass.gov/doc/opioid-related-overdose-deaths-among-ma-residents-may-2021/download . I only see 112 "poisoning" deaths in the 2020 MA suicide stats (615 suicides total) source https://www.mass.gov/doc/2020-suicide-data-table/download , and there isn't a separate column for overdoses. I'm sure most of those weren't intentional, but it seems they are purposely leaving opiod overdoses out of the suicide count. Whether intentional or not, more than 10x people died from opiod overdoses (not counting other drugs) than firearm suicides in that time period, not "roughly equal" as the DPH spokesperson claimed.A public commenter asked Kelley Cunningham of the MA DPH if firearms only represent 21% of suicides (that was the number presented during the meeting), what the top three methods used were? She responded #1 was by hanging, then #2 and #3 were roughly a tie between firearms and drug overdose.
That is an excellent point which I had not considered. It may be worth trying to parse out of the deaths reported as firearm related suicides, which of those were accidental deaths.There were over 2,000 opiod overdose deaths from Oct 2019 to March 2021 source https://www.mass.gov/doc/opioid-related-overdose-deaths-among-ma-residents-may-2021/download . I only see 112 "poisoning" deaths in the 2020 MA suicide stats (615 suicides total) source https://www.mass.gov/doc/2020-suicide-data-table/download , and there isn't a separate column for overdoses. I'm sure most of those weren't intentional, but it seems they are purposely leaving opiod overdoses out of the suicide count. Whether intentional or not, more than 10x people died from opiod overdoses (not counting other drugs) than firearm suicides in that time period, not "roughly equal" as the DPH spokesperson claimed.
Len, I agree with what you stated The one I attended, the scumbag that represented Walpole was trying to stay awake and kept looking at his watch. Scrivener was there too! The whole thing was nothing but a vent session. To bad, they didn't give a damn what legal firearms owners had to say or what we thought. Naughton and his minions got to say we gave the people a chance to speak, like they said they would, and just wasted taxpayers money and our time.Having attended and spoke at the last "listening tour" back ~2014, I can tell you that they aren't listening. They already know what they plan on doing, and they are just glad-handing the gun owners. Folks should still go, put together a succinct argument against any further intrusions on the 2nd A and support GOAL. Just don't expect that they will listen and respond favorably on Bacon Hill!