Buying Land for a Private Range, NH

I had this dream if you will sometime back when that lottery was over $700M. Dreams of buying like 3,000 acres in northern Maine for shooting, hunting, fishing, ATV'ing, dirt bikes, maybe some horses. I would have put some nice log cabins on the land and a helipad so I could fly up there.

Friends could use it to hunt or just vacation in a kind of wilderness.

I think less than 250 acres anywhere near a developed region you will lose your rights to shoot on your own land sooner rather than later.

But I didn't win the lottery so I will have to continue to dream.

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SubieGuy4 said:
Looking for input on buying a plot to use as a private range.

I live in Rindge, NH. For years I shot at CCF&G in Keene (30 minutes away) and then after that had access to a private range in Rindge. Now I no longer have the private range and CCF&G (now CCSSEF) has much more strict rules and is becoming fuddy. I need somewhere outdoor to shoot safety but freely without RSOs looking over my shoulder or other members using a particular range.

I'm seriously considering buying a plot of land that isn't zoned for habitable structures. I'm realizing when they're only useable for recreation they can be found for around $10-25k which I could do with financing. Does anyone have experience doing this kind of thing for the purpose of shooting? What do you look for and what do you check to help ensure you're not going to get hassled for the noise? I know the shooting laws (300ft from a habitable structure, no shooting over roads, etc.) which are super easy to operate within. I'm thinking about this from a practical standpoint.
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Do not buy near wetlands. Too many environmental problems. Lead shot landing in the water could cause you a lot of trouble with the EPA.
 
I urge all who are contemplating purchasing some of the Granite State for their very own to do research on what industries/individuals hatched the socialist scheme which has come to be known as 'current use'-start around the year 1968.

www.nasa.gov

Feb. 26, 1966 Launch of Apollo-Saturn 201

Apollo-Saturn 201 (AS-201), the first Saturn IB launch vehicle developed by NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC), lifts off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, at 11:12 a.m. on Feb. 26, 1966.
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Start your trip into SPACE here, be sure to get into orbit around page 3


Should the facts be comforting then you also could buy some acres and petition the Ministry of Land Use for membership and surrender your very own rights: FOREVER: in exchange for a few pieces of copper - that is IF you are able to locate a free owner willing to sell at anywhere near a manageable number-and honestly- good for them.
 
We have a place adjacent to the Sunapee Pillsbury state parks. People go up and shoot there all the time. Some of the .22 shooters leave their brass so we know exactly where they shoot. On Saturday morning the whole neighborhood lights up.
 
snubnose said:
I urge all who are contemplating purchasing some of the Granite State for their very own to do research on what industries/individuals hatched the socialist scheme which has come to be known as 'current use'-start around the year 1968.

www.nasa.gov

Feb. 26, 1966 Launch of Apollo-Saturn 201

Apollo-Saturn 201 (AS-201), the first Saturn IB launch vehicle developed by NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC), lifts off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, at 11:12 a.m. on Feb. 26, 1966.
www.nasa.gov www.nasa.gov

Start your trip into SPACE here, be sure to get into orbit around page 3


Should the facts be comforting then you also could buy some acres and petition the Ministry of Land Use for membership and surrender your very own rights: FOREVER: in exchange for a few pieces of copper - that is IF you are able to locate a free owner willing to sell at anywhere near a manageable number-and honestly- good for them.
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We get it. you don't like the program. It turns out lots of other people do. On top of that, enough of them have made the argument to their legislators in a way that brought said lawmakers on board. Sounds to me like our republican form of government is working...
 
JRT said:
I understand but for me it’s not like that. They are my bro’s really, we are all in our 40s and it’s good fun. I never pay for the beer or my dinner at the local bar. They don’t let a flake of snow hit my moms driveway and there are two friends there plowing it for her. I’ve never felt like anyone has taken advantage of me.
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Those are true friends
 
Mesatchornug said:
We get it. you don't like the program. It turns out lots of other people do. On top of that, enough of them have made the argument to their legislators in a way that brought said lawmakers on board. Sounds to me like our republican form of government is working...

I do understand the attraction of the program, on the face all seems logical and noble. But the Mrs. and I became convinced that mischief was afoot when we discovered how difficult it was to find a realtor or attorney who even had a rudimentary understanding of current use or rather an understanding which they would communicate. Its real easy to get pamphlets from the State if you want to get into the club but a clear concise source of information for buyers was/is (?) non existent - we have been actively researching/looking at property for well over a year now.

Why was there huge taxes on property that we wished to buy and with the only 'change' being us as the owners and occupants ?

IF 'current use' is such a swell idea why did the liberals who conceived the legislation make certain that property, once in, can never be removed from the program ?

Accept for a moment that the Group of Four knew full well that, in time, the current use plan would remove enough tax dollars from the State and local entities so as to create a fiscal crisis which would require immediate action, in the interest of fairness and equity of course. The legislation itself would become so ingrained into the State that removal or even alteration would be impossible , estimates put program eligible land at over 70% of all available acreage with nearly 60% already in the forever program-depending on which sources one accesses.

Is it so difficult to realize that perhaps all along the ultimate goal of the SPACE mission was to finally get the people of New Hampshire enslaved by the unthinkable : vast increases in interest and investment taxes/income/excise/carbon taxes and one of any libs top two - vat ...

Think about it.
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Why dont you contact a local club, and just pay to add to their range, add a tactical section. In exchange you get a life membership and could probably arrange for other things.

This doesnt need to be expensive. Concrete blocks could block off an area and you have your range.

Or ...

For a couple of hundred (maybe less), join a club that has a tactical range, even if it is a little far. You could practice once every other week there, and use the rest of the money to buy enough supplies to shoot 1K+ rounds per month for the next decade.
 
snubnose said:
IF 'current use' is such a swell idea why did the liberals who conceived the legislation make certain that property, once in, can never be removed from the program ?
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Where they heck did you get this idea? Mis-reading the sentence "Once land has been approved and the application recorded, the property cannot be removed from Current Use until a disqualifying event occurs."?

It's trivial to remove land from NH current use, see RSA 79-A:7.. All you need to do to remove property from the program is make it incompatble with current use (pave it, build a house, subdivide the lot to under 10 acres) and the town will take it out of current use for you, and charge you a one time tax.

You could literally just subdivide it into 9.99 acre lots and transfer each to a revocable trust and it'll all drop out of current use.
 
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Kevin, I got this 'idea' from the great people in Concord - once land is placed into 'current use' some sort of a lien is is placed on the property and this remains forever.

Don't know about the process of gifting parts of current use property as we have no direct first hand information about this.

You maintain that I am in error and the information I received directly from the State of New Hampshire is flawed?
 
snubnose said:
Kevin, I got this 'idea' from the great people in Concord - once land is placed into 'current use' some sort of a lien is is placed on the property and this remains forever.

Don't know about the process of gifting parts of current use property as we have no direct first hand information about this.

You maintain that I am in error and the information I received directly from the State of New Hampshire is flawed?
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It sounds like there's been some miscommunication. Most likely, someone didn't understand the question. I'd recommend reading this:
Change in use starts on page 22, where it is made clear that when the use changes it will be removed from current use, and you'll be assessed taxes according to the new use.
Similarly, the 2016 Layperson's guide that you posted above says in the middle of page 4:
What happens when there is a change in use?​
When land is developed, or an owner otherwise changes its use to one not qualifying for current use, a land use change tax (LUCT) is charged. Currently, the rate is at 10 percent of the “full and true value” (ad valorem) of the land, and is usually assessed at the time the physical change occurs​
 

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