blood loss is almost always TOO SLOW

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It takes at least 5 seconds for blood loss to shut down the body. you need his arms to fall in 1/2 second or less. So it's either head hits (which often work really well, even if the cranium is not pierced) or create enough pain and shock to make him psychologically QUIT. of course the latter is not 100%, but it's the best chance we have of a stop that's FAST enough. Physical incapacitation, from torso hits, is NEVER fast enough. It can't be. What we see when torso hits DO suffice, is a psychological quitting, if it occurs in less than 5 seconds.

When you see a double carotid choke applied, ALL blood flow to the brain has been stopped. Yet the guy IS able to flop around a lot, for 3-4 seconds, at least. he can shoot/stab/club 4 or more times per second, with each hand, and he can have buddies who can do the same. So, what you want is loads/hits that maximize shock/destruction/pain, and which make it easy for you to get lots of hits, very swiftly.

The range will be very short, under 10 ft, often at arm's length or closer. So the gun/load combo can have much more recoil and blast than most people think is "adequately controlable". But you have to be able to get 4 hits per second onto the chest, at 10 ft, because that's what ANYONE can do with a .22lr autoloader, and anyone can have such a pistol. You can't afford to be slower in your ability to hit, again and again, than what you opponent can do.

Almost everyone's time and money is limited. Practicing at unrealistic ranges is a waste of both. Very few people are going to bother to learn 10 yd plus slowfire, then work their way up to really high speed stuff, at 10 ft. It's going to be one or the other. People are (rightfully) very scared of really close, really fast stuff, so they end up doing what amounts to plinking, at 5 yds plus, and kidding themselves at how 'ready" they are for a fight.
 
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tryit said:
It takes at least 5 seconds for blood loss to shut down the body. you need his arms to fall in 1/2 second or less. So it's either head hits (which often work really well, even if the cranium is not pierced) or create enough pain and shock to make him psychologically QUIT. of course the latter is not 100%, but it's the best chance we have of a stop that's FAST enough. Physical incapacitation, from torso hits, is NEVER fast enough. It can't be. What we see when torso hits DO suffice, is a psychological quitting, if it occurs in less than 5 seconds.

When you see a double carotid choke applied, ALL blood flow to the brain has been stopped. Yet the guy IS able to flop around a lot, for 3-4 seconds, at least. he can shoot/stab/club 4 or more times per second, with each hand, and he can have buddies who can do the same. So, what you want is loads/hits that maximize shock/destruction/pain, and which make it easy for you to get lots of hits, very swiftly.

The range will be very short, under 10 ft, often at arm's length or closer. So the gun/load combo can have much more recoil and blast than most people think is "adequately controlable". But you have to be able to get 4 hits per second onto the chest, at 10 ft, because that's what ANYONE can do with a .22lr autoloader, and anyone can have such a pistol. You can't afford to be slower in your ability to hit, again and again, than what you opponent can do.

Almost everyone's time and money is limited. Practicing at unrealistic ranges is a waste of both. Very few people are going to bother to learn 10 yd plus slowfire, then work their way up to really high speed stuff, at 10 ft. It's going to be one or the other. People are (rightfully) very scared of really close, really fast stuff, so they end up doing what amounts to plinking, at 5 yds plus, and kidding themselves at how 'ready" they are for a fight.
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Some holes spewing forth mass amount of blood with excruciating pain is better than a chokehold, hits count, theoretical summaries don't.
 
tryit said:
It takes at least 5 seconds for blood loss to shut down the body. you need his arms to fall in 1/2 second or less. So it's either head hits (which often work really well, even if the cranium is not pierced) or create enough pain and shock to make him psychologically QUIT. of course the latter is not 100%, but it's the best chance we have of a stop that's FAST enough. Physical incapacitation, from torso hits, is NEVER fast enough. It can't be. What we see when torso hits DO suffice, is a psychological quitting, if it occurs in less than 5 seconds.

When you see a double carotid choke applied, ALL blood flow to the brain has been stopped. Yet the guy IS able to flop around a lot, for 3-4 seconds, at least. he can shoot/stab/club 4 or more times per second, with each hand, and he can have buddies who can do the same. So, what you want is loads/hits that maximize shock/destruction/pain, and which make it easy for you to get lots of hits, very swiftly.

The range will be very short, under 10 ft, often at arm's length or closer. So the gun/load combo can have much more recoil and blast than most people think is "adequately controlable". But you have to be able to get 4 hits per second onto the chest, at 10 ft, because that's what ANYONE can do with a .22lr autoloader, and anyone can have such a pistol. You can't afford to be slower in your ability to hit, again and again, than what you opponent can do.

Almost everyone's time and money is limited. Practicing at unrealistic ranges is a waste of both. Very few people are going to bother to learn 10 yd plus slowfire, then work their way up to really high speed stuff, at 10 ft. It's going to be one or the other. People are (rightfully) very scared of really close, really fast stuff, so they end up doing what amounts to plinking, at 5 yds plus, and kidding themselves at how 'ready" they are for a fight.
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One of the bigger loads of horseshit posted here. And yeah... probably Gunkid, but getting to 34 posts before going full retard breaks the paradigm.
 
This appears to be an answer to a question....... That no one asked......
 
At first I thought it was a medical school drop out, then I realized it was just meth.
 
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Ahhh I see didnt get the memo!

The question is... Is there a Troll in the room...

I will take trolls for a 1000 alex
 
Killed the crap out of half a case of clays and a bunch of tin cans today.
Must have been all head shots, not a one got back up. [smile]
 
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