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[FalArAk]

Not a goddamn thing. No laws have been broken. Perhaps you'd like to prove otherwise.

I have sold (and bought) many guns to people I've never seen before and will never see again. So have millions of people. You've got a little Stockholm Syndrome going there.

True,but I really don't need the ATF knocking on my door asking me why I sold a gun to a federally prohibited person after that person commits a crime.

Even in the land of "freedom",wouldn't you rather not be harassed or questioned by the ATF ?

In my prison cell suffering from Stockholm Syndrome I try my hardest to limit my interactions with .gov officials.

I would at least do a bill of sale and add checklist or something stating that the person is not a federally prohibited from purchasing a gun and make him sign it.

I just don't trust strangers

 

[MAGA99]

You left out free floating a quality barrel.

Well I was talking functional. Even shit barrels will hit inside 300 yards. You’re splitting hairs brother!

 

[ScottS]

True,but I really don't need the ATF knocking on my door asking me why I sold a gun to a federally prohibited person after that person commits a crime.

Even in the land of "freedom",wouldn't you rather not be harassed or questioned by the ATF ?

In my prison cell suffering from Stockhlom Syndrome I try my hardest to limit my interactions with .gov officials.

I would at least do a bill of sale and add checklist or something stating that the person is not a federally prohibited from purchasing a gun and make him sign it.

I just don't trust strangers

Warning, Thread Drift Ahead:

Everyone has their own risk threshold. Me? Flash me a driver's license (and P&RL if pistol). No bill of sale for buy or sell. It's a deal breaker for me. I'm not giving my personal details to someone else to do...what with? And I wouldn't ask that of someone else. It's already against the law for a PP to try to obtain a firearm. I don't add extra-legal requirements; if the law required it, well...it'd be required.

YMMV.

 

[drgrant]

True,but I really don't need the ATF knocking on my door asking me why I sold a gun to a federally prohibited person after that person commits a crime.

Even in the land of "freedom",wouldn't you rather not be harassed or questioned by the ATF ?

In my prison cell suffering from Stockholm Syndrome I try my hardest to limit my interactions with .gov officials.

I would at least do a bill of sale and add checklist or something stating that the person is not a federally prohibited from purchasing a gun and make him sign it.

I just don't trust strangers

The fed law uses the term "knowingly". This is a big deal. In other words, if a guy sells his brother, a PP, a handgun, the feds could bag him, because it'd be unlikely his own brother didn't know he was a PP, etc. For a
stranger? Gobs of plausible deniability.

You could still get visited on a trace as a pass through regardless. Say you sold it through an FFL, and that guy
that bought it via the FFL got it stolen from him, and a gangbanger plugged someone with it, you're still getting a
visit after the recovery, although it won't last long.

The only way to protect yourself from any possible trace requests is:

Only buy new guns, as in like, brand new, not even new old stock etc. Must be factory > FFL or factory > distributor > FFL, nothing else. Buying used guns is a liability for paranoids because there's no way to know its past. Don't sell or give away a gun or loan it to anyone. If you don't want it any more, destroy it.

And even that isn't good enough, kopsch have f***ed up serial numbers on trace requests, etc, too, off by one
errors, etc. But if that happened to you, buy a fistful of powerball tickets or something, because your odds are better...

The odds are small enough I'm not too worried about it, regardless.

-Mike

 

[FalArAk]

I realize the 'knowingly' part and it would be impossible to prove it,it's just not worth the possible hassle to me...I would sell to friends ,but some stranger off Craigslist or whatever,f that.