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Best small(ish) carbine?
- Thread starter kurtb
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If you are stuck in MA, I'd say not the P90, only because of the 10rnd mag limit (unless you are LEO or don't mind breaking the law, lol), the P90 would actually be my choice of the three otherwise...but I think the other two take regular 16 mags, so I'd go with one of those two because of the MA mag issue...
Yup, M1 Carbine. Nothing else comes close.
M1 Carbines are still available at good prices through the CMP.
Very nice shooting gun, 30 round mags are available.
Very nice shooting gun, 30 round mags are available.
Amen.
J
Jose
M4gery. Handy as a carbine, powerful as a rifle.
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Best for what?
What do you want to use it for?
Big +1 on the USGI M1 Carbine, I love my IBM. I think the 5.7x28 is silly, so that rules out the PS90 for me. I'm intrigued by the Sub-2000. I wonder if any of the models would work with my GP35 mags.
Big +1 on the USGI M1 Carbine, I love my IBM. I think the 5.7x28 is silly, so that rules out the PS90 for me. I'm intrigued by the Sub-2000. I wonder if any of the models would work with my GP35 mags.
It's a glorified .22 Magnum
Absolutely! Mine is a 1943 Underwood. I can't wait to bring her out again.
Agreed, but in Mass he's better off with a 10/22 Magnum.
My money is on an M1 Carbine for all around handiness, (though it's hard to argue with an M4). Still, if you're looking for a handy carbine that takes a pistol caliber bullet, has insane accuracy, reliability, serviceability, cheap preban 25 and 32rd magazines, relatively affordable, robust and just plain badass there is only on clear choice my friend:
Uzi - 9mm
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Uzi - 9mm
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Another vote for the USGI M1 Carbine....
But if you are looking for more a pistol caliber carbine. I am a fan of the Marlin Camp 9. They use readily available S&W 59 series magazines. Shoot 9mm, accuracy is OK to about 100yds. Look around and you will find them in the $350+ range
But if you are looking for more a pistol caliber carbine. I am a fan of the Marlin Camp 9. They use readily available S&W 59 series magazines. Shoot 9mm, accuracy is OK to about 100yds. Look around and you will find them in the $350+ range
What caliber are you looking for? Depending on your desired use you may want to consider a Mech Tech Carbine Conversion Unit (CCU) that attaches to your Glock or 1911 frame. I just picked up a 9mm version and it's pretty cool. I got mine just to play around shooting steel at 25 yds and I like it.
http://www.mechtechsys.com/
-Cuz.
http://www.mechtechsys.com/
-Cuz.
That was my thought. There are so many options and uses, it would be hard to nail it down without more info.
jcetto0351
NES Member
I like my auto-ordinace M1...and if you don't think it to be a cardinal sin, you could put a folding polymer stock on it with an optics rail to be tacticool...
or maybe a keltec in 9mm to save the $$ on ammo
or maybe a keltec in 9mm to save the $$ on ammo
If you are looking for a compact rifle, you would be hard pressed to find a more compact rifle than the FS2000. In fact, without the tax stamps I think it would be impossible. Big Drawback is the iron sights being all but an afterthought which means you are guaranteeing 500 worth of optics in the equation...which does not make for a bargain.
If what you are looking for is a traditional carbine (i.e. a non-rifle round) there is no doubt in my mind there is nothing better than the HK94, but this is laughably unaffordable these days and with the price of pistol calibers not providing much relief I don't know if any carbine represents a good savings from an operational perspective.
So I will have to go with Uzi.
If what you are looking for is a traditional carbine (i.e. a non-rifle round) there is no doubt in my mind there is nothing better than the HK94, but this is laughably unaffordable these days and with the price of pistol calibers not providing much relief I don't know if any carbine represents a good savings from an operational perspective.
So I will have to go with Uzi.
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icyclefar
NES Member
If you're not limited by funds, I will endorse the UZI route as well. They are unbelieveably accurate, no real recoil, tons of cheap preban mags out there, can swap calibers 9 & 45 (ok, I understand that the 45 mags aren't cheap ![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
). What can I say, the Israelis build one hell of a good gun.
If you're looking for something with more punch, I like the FN FS2000. One of the reasons I like that over the MSAR is the fact that the FS2000 uses AR mags.
). What can I say, the Israelis build one hell of a good gun.If you're looking for something with more punch, I like the FN FS2000. One of the reasons I like that over the MSAR is the fact that the FS2000 uses AR mags.
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