Shark_Cage
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I thought Patton grew up in Hamilton MA? As part of a WW2 commeration my dad got to see the family property. He met the General's grand daughter. She actually drove him around in a cart (my dad is on o2).
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And, if you believe in that stuff, it is supposedly haunted.
As Bob P said, he grew up in CA, then attended VMI for a year before transferring to USMA: two prior generations had attended VMI. His grandfather was a Confederate officer killed during the Civil War.I thought Patton grew up in Hamilton MA? As part of a WW2 commeration my dad got to see the family property. He met the General's grand daughter. She actually drove him around in a cart (my dad is on o2).
The 16th. On our usual 180 degrees, 000 degrees patrol outside Casablanca. Early this afternoon we went into the harbor and refueled. Boy, what havoc we raised in that place during the bombardment. About 10 ships are full of holes and resting on the bottom, including at least 2 cruisers and 4 destroyers. Other destroyers were sunk by us on the outside. The Edison had a pretty good hand in sinking three, one almost single handed. The battleship Jean Bart is resting on the bottom.
She was hit and moderately damaged by U.S. dive bombers from the aircraft carrier USS Ranger. She was silenced by the fifth hit from the 16" guns of the USS Massachusetts, which jammed the rotating mechanism of the one working turret. The first of the seven 406 mm (16.0 in) shells which hit her, and the only one which pierced the upper armoured deck, had exploded in a magazine of 152 mm (6.0 in) turret, which was empty as these turrets had not been installed. In normal war circumstances, this event would have had catastrophic consequences. The weakness of the armor of these magazines was known, and was to be corrected on the Gascogne.
The 380 mm (15 in) turret was quickly repaired. On 10 November, Jean Bart opened fire again, and almost hit the USS Augusta, the Task Force 34 flagship. Bombers from Ranger soon inflicted severe damage on her, two heavy bombs hitting the bow and the stern, and she sank into the harbor mud with decks awash.[33][34]
Jean Bart's commanding officer, Captain Barthes, was promoted to Rear Admiral on 18 November 1942. During the three days of the 'Battle of Casablanca', Jean Bart fired twenty-five 380 mm rounds; twenty-two of her seamen were killed.
i did the sleepover as a boy scout also.... and countless school field trips, one thing that always stuck with me was a fact about those 16/45s, that they could shoot a Volkswagen bug 20 miles.....
AP rounds at 2700lbs full powder load muzzle velocity of 2300fps
range, 21miles.....
from the taunton river she can shell new bedford harbor, newport and providence....
I can't remember right now if the ones at ft tabor in new Bedford where 16" or 12"
The Milliken bttry had 2 12" guns, 16 mile range
FYI... for those in Scouting, my cub scouts are overnight camping at Fort Adams in May. This is a new one for us.. should be fun.
http://www.fortadams.org/bDiscoverbTheFortress/FortAdamsHistory/FullHistory.aspx
FYI... for those in Scouting, my cub scouts are overnight camping at Fort Adams in May. This is a new one for us.. should be fun.
http://www.fortadams.org/bDiscoverbTheFortress/FortAdamsHistory/FullHistory.aspx
I have many of my airplane models on display in the lower level in the display cases. Battleship Cove is always a good take.
I believe that is 2.2196e+8 ft lbs of engergy...pretty crazy.i did the sleepover as a boy scout also.... and countless school field trips, one thing that always stuck with me was a fact about those 16/45s, that they could shoot a Volkswagen bug 20 miles.....
AP rounds at 2700lbs full powder load muzzle velocity of 2300fps
range, 21miles.....
from the taunton river she can shell new bedford harbor, newport and providence....
Went a few years ago and loved it - could have spent a couple more hours crawling around the Massachusetts.
We did the sleepover there when my son was in cub scouts. Was a great experience. There is a ton to see, but the best part was when we got to listen to an original crew member tell his story. That was probably 10 years ago, so I'm not sure there are many crew members left.
Less impressive as a museum, but a better sleepover experience was the USS Salem in Quincy. The ship did not have as many finished spaces to explore, but the activities for the kids seemed like a lot more fun.
Both places are great.
USS Massachusetts (BB-59), known as "Big Mamie" to her crewmembers during World War II, was a battleship of the second South Dakota class. She was the seventh ship of the United States Navy to be named in honor of the sixth state, and one of two ships of her class (along with her sister Alabama) to be donated for use as a museum ship. Massachusetts has the distinction of having fired the US Navy's first and last 16-in (406 mm) shells of the war.[SUP][3][/SUP]
Of the five shells that hit Jean Bart,two, perhaps three, failed to explode. The two that exploded hit in the "nothing" sections of an "all or nothing" designed battleship. These two wrecked large parts of the ship, but parts that contained no vital equipment.
The two hits which definitely did not explode hit the hard armor of the primary turrets. In both cases, the fuse mechanism broke off. In one case, the inert shell - weighing 2,700 pounds, moving at 1,520 feet per second, falling at a 25 degree angle - crippled the target even without exploding. The one operational turret was jammed in position by impact damage to the barbette. For three hours, the Jean Bart could not traverse the forward turret to bring her guns to bear on target.
The fifth shell to hit entered the funnel, and passed easily through several light internal partitions. The first heavy deck encountered by the shell was the hull, just below the water line. As designed, the AP shell went right through this armor, and delayed for 0.033 seconds before detonating. Maybe. They were not able to determine if this shell went off. At the point it should have detonated, it was well clear of the ship and underwater.
I slept aboard her with the JCC, my boy scout troop didn't go there when I was in .It's been a long time since I've been back down there. As a kid I stayed on her for two nights as part of the Boy Scouts. It was a ton of fun running around the ship at all hours of the night. Need to head back down one of these days.