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cockpitbob
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Openly admits to taking away rights.
Horrible
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Mysteriously missing from the article is the effect of this gun ban on crime.
I can see why they left this important part of the discussion out. Homicide rates are about the same as prior to the ban. Sexual assaults and robberies SKYROCKETED immediately after the ban and have since come back down to the the same levels as before the ban.
SO, take away people's god-given rights to defend themselves for what?! An increase in crime that levels off after 20 years. Nice job, Australia! What an awful POS that article is. Nothing more than propaganda.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime.html
Britain hasn't been that lucky:
http://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/
I can see why they left this important part of the discussion out. Homicide rates are about the same as prior to the ban. Sexual assaults and robberies SKYROCKETED immediately after the ban and have since come back down to the the same levels as before the ban.
SO, take away people's god-given rights to defend themselves for what?! An increase in crime that levels off after 20 years. Nice job, Australia! What an awful POS that article is. Nothing more than propaganda.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime.html
Britain hasn't been that lucky:
http://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/
Britain's lack of "luck" is why it gets less airtime than Australia I think. Such a sad sight, all those perfectly good guns going to destruction.
Horrible
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That is why they try to make the case about "gun violence" as opposed to violent crime. Because of AUS and England. If the argument is about violent crime the antis lose and lose BIG!
Or they try and compare US homicide rates with those of England, which is a rigged game b/c England only counts these things as crimes if they get a conviction! Not to mention other unmeasured factors that play into this.
the_shootist
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Why should we care what happens in a former prison colony? They took away 700,000 guns from the people and the people are apparently fine with it. Trying that in a country with over 300,000,000 guns is quite another matter. The template they used in AU will never come close to working in the US
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the_shootist
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What that article leaves out is the simple fact: Australia is a freaking ISLAND.
It is way harder to smuggle 'illegal' weapons onto an ISLAND than a landlocked country. Even England has relatively short distances to cross not to mention the Chunnel or whatever they call it.
More to the point, the United States has a massive land border that we can't control. If the cartels can smuggle hundreds of tons of illegal drugs into this country, how hard would it be for them to just throw a crate of AK's purchased in Afghanistan (along with the opium products) and ship them across the border?
Pretty damn easy.
It is way harder to smuggle 'illegal' weapons onto an ISLAND than a landlocked country. Even England has relatively short distances to cross not to mention the Chunnel or whatever they call it.
More to the point, the United States has a massive land border that we can't control. If the cartels can smuggle hundreds of tons of illegal drugs into this country, how hard would it be for them to just throw a crate of AK's purchased in Afghanistan (along with the opium products) and ship them across the border?
Pretty damn easy.
Then they just move on to the next object to ban like knives in England. Antis fail to look at the big picture on this and many other topics.
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