"ATF Goes After Homemade Silencers Through Mass Form 1 Disapprovals"

[TOM1960]

I actually still have one of these. lol I must’ve gotten it in the 80’s somewhere. Fit my Buck 110, was made of bulky black plastic and leather.

Somehow it grips the blade point when you’re drawing it and opens it for you. Now I’ll have to look around and see where it is in the attic boxes. I don’t think I’ve worn it since the 80’s. Might be a preban collector piece now. lol

Because of weight and concealment problems, I ended up choosing a Gerber FSII for EDC back in the late 1970s. Mine had the original swept-point blade. It was slim, held a razor sharp edge and concealed easily in a trouser pocket. Carried it through four years of college (1978-1982) and six years on the job before selling it to a friend. Ten years of EDC and it still looked and performed excellently.

 

[Dennis in MA]

I actually still have one of these. lol I must’ve gotten it in the 80’s somewhere. Fit my Buck 110, was made of bulky black plastic and leather.

Somehow it grips the blade point when you’re drawing it and opens it for you. Now I’ll have to look around and see where it is in the attic boxes. I don’t think I’ve worn it since the 80’s. Might be a preban collector piece now. lol

You look at what is banned in MA and you think, "This guy was Speaker of the House and was forced to watch bad 70's karate movies. That's why they are all banned."

 

[DispositionMatrix]

Matthew Larosiere explains his interpretation of the denials.


He also points out there is no apparent reason for the ATF to do this since those who had submitted Form 1s were _trying_ to register what they intended to build in compliance with federal law.

Here is the made-to-be-abused language in the law of which the ATF is taking full advantage for no reason having anything to do with public safety:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2012-title18/html/USCODE-2012-title18.htm
or
18 U.S. Code § 921:

(24) The terms “firearm silencer” and “firearm muffler” mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

There is no explanation in the video or anywhere else I have read that explicitly states _how_ the ATF determined who had what parts and thus on what basis the determination was made the parts themselves were suppressors for these particular Form 1 submissions.

 

[MGnoob]

I find that entire thing strange… I think I’m received an email from the ATF about something related to this. I didn’t read it because… well I just didn’t,
I don’t care…. Maybe you should see if I still have it. Find it really strange that they’re investigating this guy.

The list of shit that I buy online…. If you looked at it from an outside perspective would seem pretty suspicious. It’s just basic stuff for basic things.

I can only assume they read my online posts and already know I’m a whack job who isn’t violating stupid f***ing laws…. Maybe someday I’ll get my other FFL and get a suppressor. But somehow my neighbors would complain about that still

 

[chris_1001]

I actually still have one of these. lol I must’ve gotten it in the 80’s somewhere. Fit my Buck 110, was made of bulky black plastic and leather.

Somehow it grips the blade point when you’re drawing it and opens it for you. Now I’ll have to look around and see where it is in the attic boxes. I don’t think I’ve worn it since the 80’s. Might be a preban collector piece now. lol

Quick Draw Release Leather Knife Sheath Original Quickdraw for Buck 110 Knives | eBay

Our sheaths are made to be cross-drawn (across the body). The RIGHT-HANDED sheath should be worn on your LEFT side, and drawn from left to right across your body. (with your right hand) Quick draw high quality leather sheath made for Buck 110 or Similar Lock Back knives.

www.ebay.com

 

[cams]

Quick Draw Release Leather Knife Sheath Original Quickdraw for Buck 110 Knives | eBay

Our sheaths are made to be cross-drawn (across the body). The RIGHT-HANDED sheath should be worn on your LEFT side, and drawn from left to right across your body. (with your right hand) Quick draw high quality leather sheath made for Buck 110 or Similar Lock Back knives.

www.ebay.com

That looks similar, same action, but my old one was probably 80% plastic vs leather. I think the only leather on mine is the belt loop and a retaining strap.

 

[chris_1001]

That looks similar, same action, but my old one was probably 80% plastic vs leather. I think the only leather on mine is the belt loop and a retaining strap.

I always thought the original was all leather.

 

[cams]

I always thought the original was all leather.

I don’t know, only one I’ve ever seen was mine and it may just be from a diff company.

 

[chris_1001]

I don’t know, only one I’ve ever seen was mine and it may just be from a diff company.

I just remember the leather ones.

 

[cams]

I just remember the leather ones.

If I find it I’ll post up a pic here.

 

[MGnoob]

I actually still have one of these. lol I must’ve gotten it in the 80’s somewhere. Fit my Buck 110, was made of bulky black plastic and leather.

Somehow it grips the blade point when you’re drawing it and opens it for you. Now I’ll have to look around and see where it is in the attic boxes. I don’t think I’ve worn it since the 80’s. Might be a preban collector piece now. lol

It’s the first I’ve heard about it being banned I have several similar ones. How is it dangerous is it to folding knife? I don’t see what’s quicker than taking them out of your pocket.. Or already having an open in your hand… I thought you guys were talking about the Wallet holsters for pistols

 

[cams]

It’s the first I’ve heard about it being banned I have several similar ones. How is it dangerous is it to folding knife? I don’t see what’s quicker than taking them out of your pocket.. Or already having an open in your hand… I thought you guys were talking about the Wallet holsters for pistols

Ya it’s just some old design kind of open sheath for folding knives. I heard a couple of times long ago that they were banned but ya nobody paid attention to it.

 

[MGnoob]

The buck 110 “assault knife” … lol… It’s so incredibly stupid I bet it is a law

 

[TOM1960]

Ya it’s just some old design kind of open sheath for folding knives. I heard a couple of times long ago that they were banned but ya nobody paid attention to it.

It’s the first I’ve heard about it being banned I have several similar ones. How is it dangerous is it to folding knife? I don’t see what’s quicker than taking them out of your pocket.. Or already having an open in your hand… I thought you guys were talking about the Wallet holsters for pistol

Ya it’s just some old design kind of open sheath for folding knives. I heard a couple of times long ago that they were banned but ya nobody paid attention to it.

Regardless of that device's legal status here in our socialist utopia of a state, the fact remains that its day has long passed. Today's folding knives are lightweight, easy to carry and designed for one-handed opening. Spyderco was the first, with a thumb hole in the blade. Al Mar designed the Gerber FSII with a hesitation notch. Thumb the blade open 30 degrees and finish with a wrist flick. Very fast and easy. This was a 1972 design. Glad the MA politicians at the time weren't aware of this feature or it would have been banned as well.

 

[AHM]

... Al Mar designed the Gerber FSII with a hesitation notch. Thumb the blade open 30 degrees and finish with a wrist flick. Very fast and easy. This was a 1972 design. Glad the MA politicians at the time weren't aware of this feature or it would have been banned as well.

MA politicians aren't aware of much beyond where their next grift is coming from.