It's such BS that they can approve form 1's in 2 weeks yet it takes 9 months for a form 4. There's no substantive difference. If anything, a form 4 should be even easier.
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ATF eForm 1 mega thread. Process and approvals!
- Thread starter JRT
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I'm willing to believe that there is a larger percentage of form 1 and 4 that require individual attention, but most should be little more than what is done for a 4473, and as such should be just as instant. Certainly those who have been approved prior should go through near instantly. The delay is just a tactic to make people not do it.
45collector
NES Member
I'm in the process of filing my first form 1 to SBR my Thompson M1.
I had put my town CLEO info in, but now just read a few pages back here that I should use the MSP info instead. I can't change the info now. Should I scrap this form and start over?
I had put my town CLEO info in, but now just read a few pages back here that I should use the MSP info instead. I can't change the info now. Should I scrap this form and start over?
No you’re fine, you can use either one.
HOLY SHIT!! My first eForm 1/SBR.
Must be a new record on getting approved in the shortest time!
9 Days!!
FORM TYPE -eForm 1
ENTITY -Individual
FINGERPRINT TYPE -EFT fingerprint file
PENDING -12/19
APPROVED -12/28
STATE -MA
CONTROL # -20241814xxx
SBR a MPX K
Must be a new record on getting approved in the shortest time!
9 Days!!
FORM TYPE -eForm 1
ENTITY -Individual
FINGERPRINT TYPE -EFT fingerprint file
PENDING -12/19
APPROVED -12/28
STATE -MA
CONTROL # -20241814xxx
SBR a MPX K
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Damn, makes me want to SBR another lower. That's the shortest time I've heard of. I already have the electronic fingerprints.
I know!
Still in shock and with Christmas in between the time too.
Merry Christmas to me lol.
45collector
NES Member
I'm stuck again on the CLEO address because somehow there's a typo in there and I can't change it. This form sucks LOL
Also I'm trying to figure out how to do the digital fingerprint process rather than the ink and card method. Anyone done that? There is a business a few towns away from me that is open late just once a week that offers that service but I have no idea if it will be accepted by the form 1 requirement. I can't find any info about that on the ATF website.
And lastly (for now) if no one locally is capable of doing the barrel swap the right way, is it ok to ship the receiver out to have it done? I really don't want to do that but it may be the only option.
Also I'm trying to figure out how to do the digital fingerprint process rather than the ink and card method. Anyone done that? There is a business a few towns away from me that is open late just once a week that offers that service but I have no idea if it will be accepted by the form 1 requirement. I can't find any info about that on the ATF website.
And lastly (for now) if no one locally is capable of doing the barrel swap the right way, is it ok to ship the receiver out to have it done? I really don't want to do that but it may be the only option.
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Yes, I have. I ordered my prints from National Gun Trusts. Then I scheduled an appointment a a local UPS store to get it done.
45collector
NES Member
Excellent I'll check that out thank you!
Cap'n Mike
NES Member
I used these guys for electronic prints.
printscan.com
The rub for us was we needed to get all the responsible persons on the trust done.
We mailed our fingerprint cards to them and they emailed back the .eft files.
It was a PITA to accomplish but it makes eform 1s so much easier.
A couple of times before, I messed up something on the eform and it was rejected and it had to be resubmitted, then I had to redo everyones fingerprint cards and send them in a second time.
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We mailed our fingerprint cards to them and they emailed back the .eft files.
It was a PITA to accomplish but it makes eform 1s so much easier.
A couple of times before, I messed up something on the eform and it was rejected and it had to be resubmitted, then I had to redo everyones fingerprint cards and send them in a second time.
45collector
NES Member
Stuck again...
Beginning to think this isn't worth the trouble.
Beginning to think this isn't worth the trouble.
Have you tried another card? Are you using credit or debit?
Cap'n Mike
NES Member
A guy in a Reddit MP5 group said he just got back an eform1 approval in 24 hours
8 business days here
Yes, UPS Store.
IIRC, you can set up an appointment with the UPS store and don't need to order via 3rd party as someone in this thread had posted.
Worth noting that not all UPS Stores have the E fingerprint service.
It’s cheaper if you go through National Gun Trusts than if you set it up directly.
Mtn_Guy
NES Member
go see Randy… $10 or $20(?) to have them emailed to you…
Excellent, good to know. However, do you have to be a member / customer of National Gun Trusts? Thanks
Don’t have to be a member, not sure what you mean by customer but all you do is just purchase through them on their website.
45collector
NES Member
It hasn't even given me the chance to enter any card. A buddy who's done a few of these told me to keep trying and it'll eventually work.
45collector
NES Member
Who's Randy?
Randy Dean of Dean Safety, located at The Mill in Littleton.
CatSnoutSoup
NES Member
a $5 difference.
ATF eForm 1 mega thread. Process and approvals!
Submitted two form1s yesterday. Efile Form1 Individual, digital prints EFT file, and FBI VAF UPIN. Let's see how quickly (or not quickly) this goes. My last form1s were approved in roughly 3-4 weeks the old snailmail prints way, (back in February) also before I had a UPIN. I’m hanging around 20...
www.northeastshooters.com
At this point most local PDs should be able to do .eft file prints. I know in NH the state is pushing to get the system into all the PDs, if your local doesn't yet, try the surrounding PDs
Hey $5 is $5. I’ll take anything I can get.a $5 difference.
ATF eForm 1 mega thread. Process and approvals!
Submitted two form1s yesterday. Efile Form1 Individual, digital prints EFT file, and FBI VAF UPIN. Let's see how quickly (or not quickly) this goes. My last form1s were approved in roughly 3-4 weeks the old snailmail prints way, (back in February) also before I had a UPIN. I’m hanging around 20...
71montess
NES Member
Will I have a state or federal problem if I serialize my 80% build with FJB1
45collector
NES Member
I'm guessing all these problems I'm having are because I'm trying to do all this on a smart phone. (Can't enter a payment at this point.)
Hopefully I can get this wrapped up this week but holy F has this been a PITA!
Hopefully I can get this wrapped up this week but holy F has this been a PITA!
