Probably both tbh, knowing this state
Oh well yeah that’s the problem, you need to use a computer. You should’ve opened with that. I think the website even tells you not to do it on a smartphone.
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ATF eForm 1 mega thread. Process and approvals!
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45collector
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My dumbass mistake then
45collector
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Ok so form is submitted but it never asked me for fingerprints. What shall I do from here?
Were you planning on doing e-prints or paper?
45collector
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E-prints
Cap'n Mike
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They needed to be uploaded.
They probably sent you an email with instructions to mail in prints.
You may be better off canceling and resubmitting.
I believe the upload of the etf file is in the same spot you upload the serial number engraving picture.
Yeah you done already messed up, should’ve uploaded them as part of the application.
You should look up National Gun Trusts. They have videos on YouTube that walk you through the entire SBR process step by step to help you avoid simple mistakes like this one
45collector
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Good lord have I been having a tough time with technology lately 
71montess
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You and me both, every dayGood lord have I been having a tough time with technology lately
45collector
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I'm guessing then since I already submitted it, it'll be rejected and I'll have to start over. Does the ATF just keep the $200 until I get it right? 
I'm trying to do all this with a busy work and kid schedule so I'm highly distracted. I'll look for that gun trust video this weekend and try to get this squared away.
I'm trying to do all this with a busy work and kid schedule so I'm highly distracted. I'll look for that gun trust video this weekend and try to get this squared away.
You’ll be refunded the money after the form gets rejected. Should take about 1.5-2 weeks for the refund to be processed.I'm guessing then since I already submitted it, it'll be rejected and I'll have to start over. Does the ATF just keep the $200 until I get it right?
I'm trying to do all this with a busy work and kid schedule so I'm highly distracted. I'll look for that gun trust video this weekend and try to get this squared away.
Here are the videos-
Filing as an individual:
View: https://youtu.be/WBq2a5RWMAg?si=vVXJ55aN2qyITOJ4
Filing as a gun trust:
View: https://youtu.be/RCK12ffvdr8?si=IzDZThW95Gf4eCI_
In case you’re not aware, make sure you include a copy of your MA LTC with your application when you resubmit as well, or else they’ll deny it again. The videos I linked earlier in this thread should talk about when to upload important documents like LTCs.I'm guessing then since I already submitted it, it'll be rejected and I'll have to start over. Does the ATF just keep the $200 until I get it right?
I'm trying to do all this with a busy work and kid schedule so I'm highly distracted. I'll look for that gun trust video this weekend and try to get this squared away.
Cap'n Mike
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Never forget, the process is made extra difficult so you will give up and throw in the towel.
45collector
NES Member
Yeah I figured that much.
45collector
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Thank you!
71montess
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if a form 1 firearm , which is engraved with a name and town is relocated to a new town, do you have to re engrave the new town ?
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Cap'n Mike
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No need to re engrave.
You are engraving the place the firearm was “made”. The same way Colt Engraves “Hartford Conn” on the stuff they make,
71montess
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Great, thanks brother.
Scallops4Life
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Question 4d ask model (as marked on firearm). Do I put SBR-Model and that it? Also serial number? Is it SBR in front of the one on lower? Thanks in advance
You're over thinking it. You are converting a firearm into an SBR. There will be a model and serial number on the frame/receiver from the original manufacturer. Just use those. No additions.
If you're building it based on an 80%, then I don't know.
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Converting. Thank you
Cap'n Mike
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If you’re doing an eform1, you must upload a picture of the engraving of the model and serial number. Make sure the photo matches exactly what you put in 4d. I was SBSing a Mossberg 590A1 and put that on the form as the model. The model engraving on the receiver is actually 590, this was enough to get the eform kicked back and needed to be resubmitted, as well as new prints done
A picture isn’t required for an eform 1. I’ve have 2 of them approved, didn’t submit a picture for either one.If you’re doing an eform1, you must upload a picture of the engraving of the model and serial number. Make sure the photo matches exactly what you put in 4d. I was SBSing a Mossberg 590A1 and put that on the form as the model. The model engraving on the receiver is actually 590, this was enough to get the eform kicked back and needed to be resubmitted, as well as new prints done
Cap'n Mike
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For an SBR on an 80%, you have to engrave a model and serial number on it. You can make up your own. On the Clone XM177E2 I built, I used that as the model. I then took a picture of the whole rollmark, which made the examiner think it was a Colt, so it was rejected based on the manufacturer not matching. Had to resubmit and more fingerprint cards.
Shit like that is why I paid for digital fingerprints.
wait a minute, you pay for your fingerprints?For an SBR on an 80%, you have to engrave a model and serial number on it. You can make up your own. On the Clone XM177E2 I built, I used that as the model. I then took a picture of the whole rollmark, which made the examiner think it was a Colt, so it was rejected based on the manufacturer not matching. Had to resubmit and more fingerprint cards.
Shit like that is why I paid for digital fingerprints.
Cap'n Mike
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Last one was approved 10/10/2023
Cap'n Mike
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Paid to have them digitized so I no longer have to do cards. I have a trust and had to get fingerprints from all responsible parties with every eform.
Cap'n Mike
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I assumed the pics were required?
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Electronic documents: If you would like to upload or include any documentation with the firearm that you are manufacturing or making, you can upload them here. This might be a schematics or diagrams, etc. For all NFA Firearms that aren't a silencer, you will need to upload a picture of the engravings on the firearm.”
Maybe I’m mistaken or it’s because I filed as a trust? Or because it was an 80%?
Or maybe it’s part of some ATF rule that got an injunction or overturned in court.?
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Dam, didn't realize PDs were charging for this, I'll have to thank them next time I'm in.
