I understand why you wouldn't at PTown, but what's your reasoning while on a firing range?
Yea I don't remember that being one of the four rules for gun safety...
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I understand why you wouldn't at PTown, but what's your reasoning while on a firing range?
Yea I don't remember that being one of the four rules for gun safety...
Some one had stated, if you give a mouse a cookie, he will want the glass of milk too...
That is the second time I heard something to that effect... I understand alot of you think I'm some kind of anti 2nd Amend, some of you think I'm an Idiot... Regardless to what you or any one else thinks of me, too many people have firearms,that do not receive training even though they should, (because that have too much pride and ignorance to go get training) even if it was afforadble... Common sense, is not that common, and alot things around firearms isnt just common knowledge.... If we just relied on what family members and friends taught us, which for the most part is a lot of bad habbits or leave something out that is vital... Not all cases I know, not all people or gun owners obviously... I'm talking about the dumbasses that bring beer bottles to the range to shoot, the types of dumbasses that shoot porta potties etc. etc... I know it also comes down to respecting other peoples property and all other kinds of other issues, the most important thing about safety classes is the knowledge that isnt very common... Ex: Why shouldnt you bend over to pick up dropped Items while on the firing line? Never chew gum or food or smoke while shooting.... Never shoot into large bodies of water etc. etc. All common sense to most, but you would not believe how many people never would have thought about theese things.... And its things like this, that get innocent by standers seriuosly injured or killed, just wait til it happens to you or a loved one too see my point... As far as the govt. wanting the milk after they get the cookie, thats a given, but thats we have the Supreme court to help things in check....
Food for thought: you drop an item, you bend over to pick it up or crouch down to pick it up, you loose your balance, and you fall over into someone else or into the line of fire... Not all ranges have stalls or deviders....
Holey stretch, batman. What are the chances. I'd venture to guess I'd be just as likely to stop near the curb of a busy street, bend over to tie my shoe, loose my balance and...........
We should regulate bending over to only approved and licensed individuals. Seeing as the state is good at getting people to bend over, they are more qualified than you or I to instruct in the correct methods and procedures. It's for the children, only the gov can prevent needless and senseless tipping over.
How the hell did you come up with this assinine statement?
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So I can only conclude that you sir, do not agree with living in a free country. Your statements show that the general public should be protected from themselves, and by force if necessary. I say thanks, but no thanks, I'll take my chances and remain free.
Just curious....
Seriously, what the f**k is wrong with you guys, this is a gun forum, so thats why the discussion is on guns... Yes more kids die from swimming pools, drinking and driving, and all the bad things that we do as whole... Just because it hasnt happen to you yet, doesnt mean its not going too.... It happens, just not to you, to all the millions of gun owners who accidents havent happen too, god bless em.... How the hell did you come up with this assinine statement?
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So I can only conclude that you sir, do not agree with living in a free country. Your statements show that the general public should be protected from themselves, and by force if necessary. I say thanks, but no thanks, I'll take my chances and remain free.
Just curious....
You are welcome to your opinion as long as it remains "your opinion" and not the law...wether you agree with me or disagree, its my opinion and its the opinion of alot of different people who have been around firearms of all types, and around people of all different skill levels...
Drew, again, I haven't seen anyone argue against more training or the stupidity of their fellow man...drew said:This includes lawyers as well, and every single one them do not see how mandating free safety classes in order to own or posses or use firearms, inhibits the 2nd Amend. Theese people have seen some incredibally stupid things being done, that some of you and I would consider, simple common sense shit....
wether you agree with me or disagree, its my opinion and its the opinion of alot of different people who have been around firearms of all types, and around people of all different skill levels... This includes lawyers as well, and every single one them do not see how mandating free safety classes in order to own or posses or use firearms, inhibits the 2nd Amend. Theese people have seen some incredibally stupid things being done, that some of you and I would consider, simple common sense shit.... Alot of them are high ranking Officers and Enlisted personnel, with some of them going on many deployments, & have had many different MOS'.... I do understand some of the points made here, some I think are based off of fear, from govt. fearing nut jobs, who for years have been drilling things into young easily persuadable minds.... Not one of the people I have spoken to in person, can grasp how this Idea, infringes on the 2nd Amend.... So i'm not the only one... As far as the dropped items thing, read the safety sheet that every student gets & has to sign, from the Sig Sauer Academy classes... Oh yeah thats right they dont know what their talking about up there do they? One of the things that you agree upon, is not to pick up dropped items while on the shooting range.... Why do you think that is???
And for those who cant, basic safety classes are a tool to have, to help minimize or prevent the chance of a serious injury or even death... A majority of the population, who want to voice their 2nd Amend right, don't feel they need to take a safety class...
A majority of the population, who want to voice their 2nd Amend right, don't feel they need to take a safety class... But yet, almost every one of you here, agree, that safety classes are a major asset... I dont know, sounds like we have some hipocrits in the audience..
Presumptuous much?I have one question to ask all of you,
If you yourself, haven't been attacked yet, then why do you carry a gun for personal protection or home defense?
Fail #2...Drew said:I dont know, sounds like we have some hipocrits in the audience..
So from this statement would it be a fair thing to conclude that you believe that there should be mandatory swimming classes before someone can own a pool? I mean, we already know how successful the state-mandated driving classes are...Seriously, what the f**k is wrong with you guys, this is a gun forum, so thats why the discussion is on guns... Yes more kids die from swimming pools, drinking and driving
Disagree; he's an idiot and I'm about one more post away from putting him on my ignore list, as he just keeps parroting the same line, ignores my points and in general, is just a shill for the Brady Campaign.Lynne;1044964How many [B said:disagree[/B] with drew?
Now apply this to mine and many others idea, and you will see what I am getting at... And for those who cant, basic safety classes are a tool to have, to help minimize or prevent the chance of a serious injury or even death... A majority of the population, who want to voice their 2nd Amend right, don't feel they need to take a safety class... But yet, almost every one of you here, agree, that safety classes are a major asset... I dont know, sounds like we have some hipocrits in the audience..
Not common Iknow but it does happen....
It is useless to try and educate the willingly ignorant.