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Is that a bolt action pistol? Or does it actually work semi?
Thats semi auto.
The gas key is extended out.
A spring wraps around it and a clip holds it on. It compresses against the front of the upper.
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Is that a bolt action pistol? Or does it actually work semi?
???buy complete lower, then buy complete standard upper, then buy sbr upper and leave it hidden
Because unfortunately the atf can make a case on what your intending to do. Not what you've done. Kind of the whole guilty till proven innocent thing
This
It's called constructive intent and the Feds don't like that
Depends on the atf officer and how good his days been.Its not constructive intent if you have another rifle completed nearby. It is just a completed rifle and an extra upper.
Depends on the atf officer and how good his days been.
Depends on the atf officer and how good his days been.
TECHNICALLY it is.... after all the magazine can't be removed without a tool of some sort... though it can be removed eventually, even though pretty much ANY magazine can be removed with tools....
Like I said, it's all about how close to the line your willing to stand
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You can't own an AR pistol in MA. You can own an AR SBR, though.
I'd strongly argue that. Especially having worked in a gunshop. Atf regs are onerous and obnoxious. And yes they can and will arrest you over something stupid because it gives them a chub over "catching a bad guy" and I'll argue that if they decide to arrest you for not registering an sbr you're gonn have a bad day.
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City cops around here even in idaho have been known to call atf.
Bullet button would not have passed muster under the fed regs, which MA mirrored. if someone is gonna rely on that in MA, theyre better off just making the gun how they want it to begin with. This bullet button crap is a CA only thing.
you can easily travel between states with an AR Pistol, than an AR-SBR.
You may take it as "but I can make it a legal firearm" atf will not see it you're way
As a NH resident, I only have one AR-15 lower that was actually purchased as a rifle lower, so I guess I should sell that and buy a pistol lower, just to be safe.
Forum folk everywhere like to worry about constructive possession and "constructive intent", but the reason the Thompson Center Arms case is cited so often isn't just because Thompson Center Arms won, but because it's possibly the only relevant case ever actually pursued by BATFE , and is why BATFE published Ruling 2011-4.
As a NH resident, I only have one AR-15 lower that was actually purchased as a rifle lower, so I guess I should sell that and buy a pistol lower, just to be safe.
Lower was purchased with the stock installed, is at least 5 years old, paperwork says rifle.When did you buy that, during the pleistocene era? For at least the past, 3? years, AR lowers transfer as "other" and what "orientation" they are is picked by you, the buyer. ETA: it may have been longer than that, I know its been at least 3 years. -Mike
A pistol can have any length barrel you want, there's no problem Federally with having a pistol with a 16" barrel, but a pistol cannot have a shoulder stock or a second vertical grip (the exception to that is another thread entirely).sweed said:From reading some of this.. I could be mistaken, but I cannot put my carbine upper (16") on my pistol lower? I don't see how or why that would be a bad thing, unless of course it's just dummy gov't laws that make no sense.
Correct -- A receiver purchased as a rifle, or purchased as a "receiver' (stripped lower) and first built up as a rifle, is a rifle forever, as covered in BATFE Ruling 2011-4.As i understand it, a pistol lower can be converted to a rifle lower and back. A rifle lower can never be a pistol lower.I dont get this.. isn't a lower a lower no matter how you build it? You can build a rifle or pistol from it.
As i understand it, a pistol lower can be converted to a rifle lower and back. A rifle lower can never be a pistol lower.
A pistol can have any length barrel you want, there's no problem Federally with having a pistol with a 16" barrel, but a pistol cannot have a shoulder stock or a second vertical grip (the exception to that is another thread entirely).
Things get more complicated when you look at individual state laws, for example, NH RSA 159 defines a pistol as "any firearm with barrel less than 16 inches in length", yet RSA 207:7 lacks any relevant definitions.
Correct -- A receiver purchased as a rifle, or purchased as a "receiver' (stripped lower) and first built up as a rifle, is a rifle forever, as covered in BATFE Ruling 2011-4.
You're right, they're in that unmarked van that keeps parking on my street...Remember there is no ATF boogeyman in your closet waiting for you to "trip up" and break the law...
If you buy a stripped lower today (transfers as a receiver on 4473) you're fine. If you're starting with a lower that was originally a rifle (e.g. was first purchased as a complete rifle), it's forever a rifle (short of making it an NFA weapon with a Form-1, paying the $200 tax).What is the difference in the lower though? And how would a cop know if a specific lower was on a rifle or pistol. Ex. If you build an AR rifle, then swap everything out besides the lower and build a pistol, no one would know the difference?? If I'm missing something obvious, let me know
I wonder if a carbon fiber lower could be made that could withstand those forces.