Amazing video of cop getting shot on Front Sight website

[S&WM&P9]

Yup, that's the disheartening thing, you (and some other people out here) cannot make the distinction between using grapic footage like that in a training environment as opposed to posting it to in a blog in an effort to profit from it.

The bottom line is the majority of us who see this video clip WILL learn from it and the majority of us will not go on to attend a training course at Front Sight. So regardless of whether or not anyone wants to get on their high moral horse, this kind of footage is helpful in any forum and I personally think it's perfectly OK. And despite the fact that this young officer was tragically gunned down, I still don't think that he would have any problem with the video being used regardless of whether it is used in a training scenario or in one of those shameless "Don't let this happen to you" commercials. DISCLAIMER: I do not know the victim in this video personally as some of you apparently must.

 

[S&WM&P9]

If that's the tool that Piazza feels he must use to get (scare) people into his classrooms, then his reputation must truely be going into the toilet and he's getting desperate for clients. I stand by my opinion that it is in extremely poor taste to use that footage as an advertisement for your business, rather than a part of a curriculum. Also, police officers are shown videos like that (and worse) during their training in their academy, no need for police to pay Piazza to see them.

Hey Big Joe, DON"T GO TO FRONT SIGHT!

 

[Trupo]

The bottom line is the majority of us who see this video clip WILL learn from it

Really??? Most people here are doing high risk motor vehicle stops? I must have this forum confused with Masscops

So regardless of whether or not anyone wants to get on their high moral horse, this kind of footage is helpful in any forum and I personally think it's perfectly OK.

Well, "personally" I believe you are wrong.

And despite the fact that this young officer was tragically gunned down, I still don't think that he would have any problem with the video being used regardless of whether it is used in a training scenario or in one of those shameless "Don't let this happen to you" commercials. DISCLAIMER: I do not know the victim in this video personally as some of you apparently must.

I merely posed the option that the officer may not want the footage used in the manner it was, but as I also said that was only a possibility as I didn't know him. You're the one who keeps professing to be so sure of what he would've wanted, even though you inserted that rediculous "disclaimer" at the end of your feeble argument, nice self-contradiction.

Hey Big Joe, DON"T GO TO FRONT SIGHT!

Never would, I've already attended superior training. You be sure to miss it as well though.

 

[mikem317]

Drat, you figured us all out I just hope you don't catch on that myself and several others that have posted in this thread are total socialist/communist/fascists and don't even believe in people making money or educating yourself outside what the government provides and that the capitalist/free market system is a total joke...oh sh!t, did I let that slip out...whoops

Well you apparently have a problem with private industry using this video. Sure, it's heartbreaking. I felt sick hearing the officer's screams of pain. I think the hair on the back of my neck stood up too. But for some strange reason, you think that the Marketing Police should be summoned because somebody used an emotion-grabbing video in their advertisements. I don't.

If you don't like it, don't go to FS. However, I hope that Piazza's post has the opposite effect; where private security personnel, LEOs, and others discharged with similar powers decide to get additional training either at FS or one of their competitors.

 

[Trupo]

Well you apparently have a problem with private industry using this video. Sure, it's heartbreaking. I felt sick hearing the officer's screams of pain. I think the hair on the back of my neck stood up too. But for some strange reason, you think that the Marketing Police should be summoned because somebody used an emotion-grabbing video in their advertisements.

Mike, go back and re-read, or just simply read my posts. I have no problem whatsoever with a video like this being used as part of a cirriculum. No need to call the "Marketing Police"...these advertising tactics will catch up with FS soon enough, and probably already have begun to.

 

[S&WM&P9]

Really??? Most people here are doing high risk motor vehicle stops? I must have this forum confused with Masscops




I merely posed the option that the officer may not want the footage used in the manner it was, but as I also said that was only a possibility as I didn't know him. You're the one who keeps professing to be so sure of what he would've wanted, even though you inserted that rediculous "disclaimer" at the end of your feeble argument, nice self-contradiction.



Never would, I've already attended superior training. You be sure to miss it as well though.

I certainly can't compete with all you people making "high risk vehicle stops" so I guess you win!

 

[Bfatz]

The cop should have shut his stupid yap after the first warning, taken aim at the first sight of the gun and open fired while moving aggressively towards his target.

This.

First site of the rifle muzzle he should have taken this individual down. Sad really.

Rest in peace sir.

 

[S&WM&P9]

If he said that he realized it was poor judgment to use this video in his marketing of Front Sight, then he would have elevated himself in my regard. It is one thing to show this video during a class as training to show how and when to escalate force, and what can happen if you don't. It is entirely different to use it for marketing.

It doesn't surprise me at all that Piazza can't or won't recognize the difference. It disappoints me that others have the same ethical blindness.

I have to point out that I had no Idea who the slain officer in the video was until an NES member and one of the most vocal opponents of the video disclosed his name in a posting criticizing it. HYPOCRITICAL?

 

[Stef]

Hypocritical? No. I don't think you understand the meaning of that word. Unlike Nacho Pizza, no one here is using that incident for financial gain.

 

[Trupo]

I have to point out that I had no Idea who the slain officer in the video was until an NES member and one of the most vocal opponents of the video disclosed his name in a posting criticizing it. HYPOCRITICAL?

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[S&WM&P9]

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Hey "Big Joe", I surrender YOU WIN!

 

[MACGYVR]

http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-si...s-piazza-stop-screaming-start-shooting/#video

This unfortunate police officer should have shot much sooner than he did.

Deputy Kyle Dinkeller's murderer, Andrew Howard Brannan, a militia member/survivalist still awaits execution.

Use of this footage for an ad is in poor taste.

And this is what is wrong with our judicial system.
No appeal for a death penalty. You are guilty. Done. High noon in the town common next day.No last words.
For him to be waiting to be executed is a crime.
As they walked him out of the courthouse after sentencing they should have popped him in the back of the head with a .45 and been done with it.
Justice served.

Makes me sick.

 

[SecondAmdFirst]

And this is what is wrong with our judicial system.
No appeal for a death penalty. You are guilty. Done. High noon in the town common next day.No last words.
For him to be waiting to be executed is a crime.
As they walked him out of the courthouse after sentencing they should have popped him in the back of the head with a .45 and been done with it.
Justice served.

Makes me sick.

Are you sure he's worth a .45? Ammo has gotten expensive. Maybe just a .22 behind the ear?