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No doubt there would be repercussions if caught... but if you haven't been found guilty of a crime, you should be able to get your LTC back.
To you're point: Concealed means Concealed!
When I carry, I don't drink anything.
When I'm home, everything is locked up before I crack open that first beer. I won't touch a firearm when drinking, period, unless I need it to defend myself.
Just my $0.02
You're toast.
No doubt there would be repercussions if caught... but if you haven't been found guilty of a crime, you should be able to get your LTC back.
To you're point: Concealed means Concealed!
"under the influence" refers to the legal BAC limit
Re flying. I've always thought the 8 hours "bottle to throttle" was a bit soft. There were many mornings when I didn't go flying because of a rough night out the previous night.
I actually didn't know it was .04 for flying. I thought it was .02 or lower.
Don
No mention of a BAC level:
Section 10H. Whoever, having in effect a license to carry firearms issued under section 131 or 131F of chapter 140, carries on his person, or has under his control in a vehicle, a loaded firearm, as defined in section 121 of said chapter 140, while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or marijuana, narcotic drugs, depressants or stimulant substances, all as defined in section 1 of chapter 94C, or the vapors of glue shall be punished by a fine of not more than $5,000 or by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
And you haven't even touched on the issue of suitability in MA.
If an officer tells the chief that he's sure you were drinking and carrying, even if thats not enough to convict, its more than enough to pull your LTC, at which point you lose all your firearms.
So like you said, 0.00 is the only way to go in MA.
Let me expand your line of reasoning just a little bit in terms of "MA-Think"!
If an officer tells the chief that since you were seen in a bar (or that liquor was on the same table you were sitting at with other people) and were carrying, thus the officer concludes that you MUST have been drinking too . . . it's more than enough to pull your LTC, at which point you lose all your firearms.
Just carry a second gun so your covered when you start seeing double.
Haha, that is amazing.
Just close one eye.
Bold: allowing whoever pulled you over, discretion to pick one way or the other, depending on how they view mere civilians carrying guns... "under the influence" could be the mere fact that you were in proximity of Ted Kennedy's long-gone car, or it could mean you were over the "legal drunk limit" of .08. In some towns, you'd get smacked upside the head, in others, the mere mention of Ted Kennedy's liquor cabinet would get you arrested, if you were carrying. Yet again, another fine example of "hmm, all depends on my mood" law designed to just screw you out of a right, and not actually help you or the public.
For the record, Jon quoted the law from Massachusetts. NH follows the law the same as driving. .08 is the limit...
Don't drive drunk, don't carry drunk. Pretty simple. In Mass, it's better to be paranoid....how pathetically sad
The glue phrase shows you the level of intellect that brought you that great law....
Having served jury duty on three cases in MA involving OUI, the BAC has never come up in trial. 'Under the influence' is a much lower standard then 'while intoxicated'. For OUI, all they have to do is prove to a jury that your ability to operate was influenced by alcohol such that your ability to drive was impaired in some way compared to what normal would be. In the 3 cases I've sat on, 2 were convicted (the 3rd got off because the cop was a moron).
If you have a beer, is your normal cognitive ability compromised in any way? Be careful because you might need to answer to a judge or jury.
Do you tend to be a retarded ******* who shoots randomly into crowds of babies when you drink? If yes, leave your gun at home. If no, carry it because criminals don't give a shit if you've been drinking. In fact, they might actually view you as an easier target.
Or let the government dictate when you are and are not allowed to defend yourself.