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3 neighbors dead following snow removal dispute in PA township

fencer said:
When you serve, unfortunately you see some shit. Most of it you just move on, but one time this guy showed up at the gate with his wife and kid in tow, saying he needed to go to America. They told him to beat it, so he grabbed his kid, held a gun to his head and said if we didn't let him in, he would shoot his kid. Kid was screaming, wife was screaming, we were yelling drop the gun. BANG. Then he put the gun to his own temple. BANG.
First I was shocked, then I was angry and after a while I felt pity. It was a tough lesson about how many in the world put such a low value on life.
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Being a father now, I'm amazed at the stuff I've seen parents do(first and second hand) but that...that's...ugh
 
calsdad said:
I'd say those pictures - combined with the fact that the video shows there's maybe 4-5 inches of snow on the ground at best - clearly show the husband and wife who got shot were a couple of douchebags.

They're shoveling the snow all the way across the street to dump on the shooter's property - when there are patches of lawn they could have dumped the snow on to - and those patches of lawn were CLOSER - than the shooter's property....... and they weren't full enough up with snow to *maybe* give the excuse that you had to dump the snow somewhere else.

In other words - they went out of their way to dump the snow on to his property AND THEN told him to phuck off.

And people wonder why - after asking them to stop doing that - and having them raise a fist to the guy and tell him to phuck off - he got pissed off enough to start taking shots at them?
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You know, I really think it's because if he'd walked up and punched the dude, he would be facing assault charges.

We need to go back to like a 'one free one' mentality. You get one good shot when someone is being an ass. Then it's either mutual, or it's over.
 
namedpipes said:
And that's how our society crumbled. It used to be, couple of neighbors got aggravated with each other. They'd duke it out in the street, then patch up their cuts and bruises and possibly even reminisce about that fight last year at the block party cookout.

Now people are so "entitled" and it's so "inappropriate" to react. So it builds up and up and finally someone snaps.

But if the killer dude had "instead" popped the brick house guy in the nose, he's heading for jail.

Maybe shooting the couple was a little extreme, but predictable. I'll watch the video tonight and see if I still agree with myself, but what do y'all THINK will happen if there's no outlet for conflicts like this?
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I just posted the same thing sorta. This thread is moving, hard to keep up.
mikeyp said:
Yeah I wanted to see how bad it was and part of me wishes I never did, but also part of me is(and I hate to say it like this) glad I did...scary just how evil some people can really be.
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My wife was asking me to get her ready for her CCW. I showed her this video to show a situation where she would be justified in pulling and shooting (the guy and wife, not the shooter).
These two paid a dear price, we can learn from it. When I was training, I'd always start a segment with an officer down video, we'd analyze it, look for clues. The cop paid a price, others can learn from it.
namedpipes said:
My answer is the Human Cube.

Picture a manufactured module (would actually come in several sizes to accommodate larger or smaller families). It would internally be sorta like a double wide, except the windows would be LCD panels showing images of the outdoors. At both ends are doors opening into a built in section of hallway. Sprinkle in an occasional common module. Now stack them like Lego's with the utilities all interlocking as you stack them. Allow 50'x50' (much larger than that double wide) and you can fit 10k units per square mile. Stack them 10 layers deep and you have 100k units per square mile. There are around 124 million families in the US, so we'll need to cover around 1240 or so square miles. That "sounds" like a lot, but it's only 35 miles on a side. That's barely a ranch out west.

Ok, it would wind up a bit larger because that just the residential. We'd need some recreation space, commercial space, etc and there would need to be a way to extract failing units for replacement, etc. But basically, the entire population of the United States "could" easily fit into a space smaller than Rhode Island.

And there'd be no snow to shovel, rain to flood the basement, etc.

High Density farms nearby would grow/raise the food - it wouldn't even need to be that soylent stuff.

Of course, Europe would need one of their own. Asia and India would probably need several each... But pretty soon the entire world would be living within these self contained communities.

I think I've made my point. Modern problems. Modern solutions.

You're welcome. I'll be solving prison overpopulation next week. (spoiler, it'll be a variation on these modules, but without doors...)
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With all due respect, go fornicate solo. I'd rather die than live in such a structure.
 
weekendracer said:
With all due respect, go fornicate solo. I'd rather die than live in such a structure.
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True. True. But just imagine if such hives were established in a few large cities and all the liberal progressive socialists moved into them. That would leave more room for the rest of us, and concentrate the contagion for action.

I know, but I can dream can't I.
 
kevin9 said:
True. True. But just imagine if such hives were established in a few large cities and all the liberal progressive socialists moved into them. That would leave more room for the rest of us, and concentrate the contagion for action.

I know, but I can dream can't I.
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Now THAT I can get behind. But they don't want just them there, they want you suffering right beside them.

Edit: How fast can @fencer build us a fence? A tall one....with limited fortified access?
 
The NY Post video provided some interesting additional insight of the neighbors, where the husband kept antagonizing the shooter and threatened that he was going to make his life a living hell... that video account, coupled with the fact that there were multiple police calls against the couple, suggests that there may have been an ongoing pattern of verbal assault and other altercations. By logical extension, one could imagine the shooter may have felt some extreme sense of desperation in this situation to go to the ultimate and extreme measures of murder/suicide.

Again, his actions were clearly immoral and illegal, and his use of force was not justified based upon what little video evidence has been released. That is undisputed. However, there is a tragedy there far beyond his final actions — this guy was a veteran, pursued a profession in engineering attaining advance academic training and professional licensure (which required two 8-hour comprehensive exams, and annual continuing education for maintenance) and worked in the public sector. By all accounts, he was a productive and contributing member of society for the greater good. May God have mercy on all their souls.

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I can’t believe the video is not available anymore especially with audio. But you can read about what happened rather than bear witness yourself. God for bid people see what the real worlds like...

I guess that’s the problem with “news”. Rather than report and let you make your own decision they tell you what to think and what happened
 
“Should’ve kept your mouth shut” that must be in the Bible somewhere
 
The audio on that one’s way better. Instead of you should’ve kept your mouth “bang”
Before he executes the husband he says “I’m a pussy haw”

And if you listen closely at the end you can hear his cell phone ringing while he’s dead
 
The whole thing is pretty sad.If you look at the Google maps images of the houses. That guy had to walk real far both times to get his weapons.
 
So I use the new service you’re talking about. Look at the question it asked you,I love how they give you a little x by “no”Like you’re trying to close out another advertisement. I guess that’s how exit polls work they definitely stole the election
 

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Anther leason:

"When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away."

At 9:32:18 you hear someone say “Call 911”. Video ends at 9:33:45, 1 minute, 27 seconds later, not a cop in sight.
 
“Call the cops!”Looks like another classic case of Libtard’s getting what they deserve

It’s only murder when citizens kill each other. Otherwise it’s just an internal investigation
 
I’ll take you to court, dump some gravel in your driveway, maybe worse...I really wonder what the whole story is here. It’s definitely not snow. I love to watch three years of video footage of how it came to that
 
namedpipes said:
Honestly, the ratty little house doesn't look upscale enough to warrant the entitlement attitude.

If I were the likely better off guy in the brick house I'd just buy a mondo big snow blower and return all their snow right on top of their car.
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Better yet, bring out the snowblower before the plows come and cover their yard with it. If they complain, tell them to f*** themselves. If they call the cops, pay the fine and keep doing it until they move out.

throw nails in their driveway and shit on their porch. Hide dead fish in their bushes under the windows. There are so many more fun and less illegal ways to handle bad neighbors
 
In God We Trust said:
Better yet, bring out the snowblower before the plows come and cover their yard with it. If they complain, tell them to f*** themselves. If they call the cops, pay the fine and keep doing it until they move out.

throw nails in their driveway and shit on their porch. Hide dead fish in their bushes under the windows. There are so many more fun and less illegal ways to handle bad neighbors
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That type of activity most likely occurred in the months and years before the video.
 

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