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Few weeks ago I took my daughter shooting. After 50 rounds through the Rascal my daughter wanted to try the 22AR.... I set this up for 100 yards with a inexpensive red dot.
That day there was a gent shooting his tacticool AR at a 5" plate. I asked him if my daughter could shoot at it.... " what with that thing" as he points at the 22. I said yes. Gave my daughter the nod.
Pow , ping ,pow, ping ,pow ,ping ,pow no ding Pow ding .....8 out t of 10 not to shabby.
I seen him just standing there with the WTF look. I asked him if he wanted to try it......"hell yes"
Now he shot 6 out of ten.. my daughter and he took turns loading and shooting random objects on the 100 yard berm
I've had several, a MKII, a SW617, and now a SW 22A. The 22A usually works... if you clean it enough. I generally ****ing loathe/hate cleaning guns. So whenever I go to use the 22A, it really needs to be cleaned before every outing. Even then it's not perfect. The mags get scunked up too and those need to be cleaned periodically as well. .22 semis don't jibe with my cleaning intervals. Some of it also is just ammo. If I fed it mini mags or SV all the time it works more reliably than the bulk shit does. Problem is 90% of the ammo floating around is bulk garbage. Even if the gun is clean, you get that occasional weak round or whatever that promotes a stoppage. Same thing basically happened with my MKII, at least until I found out it liked CCI Blazer. In hindsight I should have just kept the 617. That thing worked even if it was covered with soot, it just didn't care.
I had pondered getting an SR22 or something like that, people don't bitch about them much.... probably be easier to clean than most, too.
-Mike
I've had several, a MKII, a SW617, and now a SW 22A. The 22A usually works... if you clean it enough. I generally ****ing loathe/hate cleaning guns. So whenever I go to use the 22A, it really needs to be cleaned before every outing. Even then it's not perfect. The mags get scunked up too and those need to be cleaned periodically as well. .22 semis don't jibe with my cleaning intervals.
Yeah! If there was wind, that was not trivial, man. (and the pop.... ding delay must have been awesome) The flight time is about the same as 600yds with .308. Last week enough people were on the pistol area at my range that I said WTH and shot my 22LR pistol (open sights) at the 12" 100m gong. I did awful at first, but got 50% on after that once I figured out the holdover, and that was with Rem Goldens, utter crap ammo. It was a hoot. Normally I do 100m with peep sights on a 10/22 offhand standing & kneeling as practice... but this was a first to try open sights on a 22 handgun at that distance. I guess it's kind of like trying to hold the same handgun to a 3" group at 25m. Aim small, miss small!A few moths back I was at the range and the outdoor range chair was there shooting his suppressed 10/22 with eotech at the 200 yard gong. That was pretty badass lol.
A few moths back I was at the range and the outdoor range chair was there shooting his suppressed 10/22 with eotech at the 200 yard gong. That was pretty badass lol.
Oh, you finally found it? Where did your ol lady hide it?Like I would ever worry about what a Frenchman thinks about my manhood.
I've had several, a MKII, a SW617, and now a SW 22A. The 22A usually works... if you clean it enough. I generally ****ing loathe/hate cleaning guns. So whenever I go to use the 22A, it really needs to be cleaned before every outing. Even then it's not perfect. The mags get scunked up too and those need to be cleaned periodically as well. .22 semis don't jibe with my cleaning intervals. Some of it also is just ammo. If I fed it mini mags or SV all the time it works more reliably than the bulk shit does. Problem is 90% of the ammo floating around is bulk garbage. Even if the gun is clean, you get that occasional weak round or whatever that promotes a stoppage. Same thing basically happened with my MKII, at least until I found out it liked CCI Blazer. In hindsight I should have just kept the 617. That thing worked even if it was covered with soot, it just didn't care.
I had pondered getting an SR22 or something like that, people don't bitch about them much.... probably be easier to clean than most, too.
-Mike
Typical Frenchman; can't get his mind off of another man's manhood.Oh, you finally found it? Where did your ol lady hide it?
I've had several, a MKII, a SW617, and now a SW 22A. The 22A usually works... if you clean it enough. I generally ****ing loathe/hate cleaning guns. So whenever I go to use the 22A, it really needs to be cleaned before every outing. Even then it's not perfect. The mags get scunked up too and those need to be cleaned periodically as well. .22 semis don't jibe with my cleaning intervals. Some of it also is just ammo. If I fed it mini mags or SV all the time it works more reliably than the bulk shit does. Problem is 90% of the ammo floating around is bulk garbage. Even if the gun is clean, you get that occasional weak round or whatever that promotes a stoppage. Same thing basically happened with my MKII, at least until I found out it liked CCI Blazer. In hindsight I should have just kept the 617. That thing worked even if it was covered with soot, it just didn't care.
I had pondered getting an SR22 or something like that, people don't bitch about them much.... probably be easier to clean than most, too.
-Mike
I should have been more specific. I just think .22 LR is overrated when trying to teach a newb how to fire a handgun for the first time. If I had a gun/ammo combo that was even 95% reliable it might be a little different, but its easier for me to just move the person to centerfire as soon as I know they're not going to be recoil sensitive. Jams and other BS with .22s are a major distraction on the line. ...
Rounds | Type | MV (fps) |
750 | Aguila Rifle Match 40Gr Solid | 1080 |
1659 | Winchester 36Gr CuPlHP | 1280 |
950 | Federal American Eagle HV 40Gr Solid | 1240 |
1643 | Federal AutoMatch 40Gr Solid | 1200 |
I consider .22LR to be a good introducer to newbies.
It's like the "pellet gun" round of real guns.
I don't really care to use bullseye targets any more except just a warm up or zeroing.
Great for first timers and kids. Beyond that I really don't shoot 22LR much at all despite having several guns.
I think the best by far is the M&P15-22. Great way to get kids familiar with the AR platform. Accurate out of the box and you can mount stuff to,it right off the bat to teach kids how to use different optics.
Personally, my least favorite 22LR gun is the, IMO, highly overrated 10/22. I've used two new stock ones. The interface is clumsy and unlike any other firearm and both of them jammed repeatedly, unless you were using match ammo. I very rarely have an issue with the 15-22, so constantly needing to baby the thing was irritating. The standard box mags are also lacking and pale compared to the stock 25rd 15-22.
I think the only reason you hear so much about them here is because MA gets screwed on high cap mags making the 15-22 less desirable. Personally I'd never buy a 10/22. I have three other 22LR rifles and a conversion kit for my AR and they all outshine my experience with the 10/22
It wasnt that long ago that 22 was ~3 a round in bulk. I was buying cases of 5000 rds of CCI Blazer for 160 bucks only a couple years ago.For all the people with feed problems in their 22 pistols, have you considered a revolver?
Good pellets are half the price of 22 ammo, cheap pellets are maybe 2 cents each. Or you could reclaim lead and make your own (e.g. Nomad).
Wow, you really keep stats on your range trips. Doesn't it take the fun out of it.Ruger Mk III 22/45 target, 5½" bull barrel
5002 rounds across 78 sessions.
Failure to Feed: 48
Failure to Fire: 20 (includes 12 duds that wouldn't fire with 4 distinct strikes each)
Failure to Extract: 6
Failure to Eject: 21 (includes stovepipes)
Failure to Lock Back: 2
Total failures: 97
Reliability: 98.10%
Rounds Type MV (fps) 750 Aguila Rifle Match 40Gr Solid 1080 1659 Winchester 36Gr CuPlHP 1280 950 Federal American Eagle HV 40Gr Solid 1240 1643 Federal AutoMatch 40Gr Solid 1200
Wow, you really keep stats on your range trips. Doesn't it take the fun out of it.
22lr can't kill zombie.
22lr can't kill zombie.
Skinflint round. Suppressed its pretty cool. Overrated for anything beyond these two. Really overrated for training.