WTF, did anyone just watch Sotomayor???

[Preachers Sheets]

The news just had her being grilled by a senator about the 2nd amendment.

I swear sometimes I want to bang my head into a wall. The lady is crazy and she is openly extreme with her views on firearms. She thinks the 2nd amendment is on a Federal level and if a state doesnt want to follow it they shouldn’t have to. If that passes; idiot Deval will be the first to jump on that band wagon.

I'm not sure how it works if she is in power but I pray that she doesnt have the final say in matters such as firearms.

Deval Patrick, Sotomayor, Kennedy, Menino, Obama......I swear the world is ending. They are saying they want us to have freedom and in order to do that they need to take a course of action that removes freedom in a way.

Who the hell can we vote for that isn’t so pro “illegal immigrant” and “anti-gun”. Jeepers creepers for crying out loud…..

 

[Dirtypacman]

/puke

 

[Mike S]

I tried to watch it yesterday after lunch, turned it on to a D senator from Minnesota who was rambling on and on and on.. about nothing!

She was what the porn industry would call a "fluffer"

Made me sick.

 

[jpattersonnh]

It is already that way! Here in NH our State laws trump fed law. In Mass and Conn it goes against the gun owner, but the State has the final say still. So change things in your State or Commonwealth!

 

[Sprocket]

In 20 years the USA as we know it may not exist "and the Republic for which it stands" will be a civics lesson if it's not written out of the books completely...

 

[MARINE96]

She scares the hell out of me on more than just her views of the 2nd.

 

[Preachers Sheets]

I hear you marine.....I think she has her own agenda and she doesnt really care what people think of it. She has her own idea of how the country should be and it doesnt matter what laws are in place.

 

[MARINE96]

She has her own agenda for sure and it isnt a good one.

 

[Lucas McCain]

I saw her today getting grilled about her statement that justices make the laws. What a fat lying piece of shit. If I was in her court and blatantly lied under oath I would be in jail. She will say anything to be confirmed, these people in the current admin. are all traitors.

 

[MA_Shooter]

More change and hope that we didn't vote for, want, or need. She scares me because of previous comments and being a judicial activist. She should interpret the laws as written, not make them up based on being a 'wise hispanic woman'. Diane Feinstein wasn't any better if you listened to her testimony yesterday.

 

[TomH]

I saw her today getting grilled about her statement that justices make the laws. What a fat lying piece of shit. If I was in her court and blatantly lied under oath I would be in jail. She will say anything to be confirmed, these people in the current admin. are all traitors.

Yep, she's changed all her positions for the hearings, conveniently. Once she gets confirmed she'll go right back to her crazy agenda.

 

[livefreeorhere]

hey guys don't worry, she totally understands the second amendment...

I have friends who hunt

from cnn

besides not understanding the second amendment, that's just retarded. It reminds me of morons who make a joke about an ethnic or racial group and say "well it's ok, I've got a friend that's _____" (not laughing, screaming)

 

[Bob P]

The news just had her being grilled by a senator about the 2nd amendment.

I swear sometimes I want to bang my head into a wall. The lady is crazy and she is openly extreme with her views on firearms. She thinks the 2nd amendment is on a Federal level and if a state doesnt want to follow it they shouldn’t have to. If that passes; idiot Deval will be the first to jump on that band wagon.

I'm not sure how it works if she is in power but I pray that she doesnt have the final say in matters such as firearms.

Deval Patrick, Sotomayor, Kennedy, Menino, Obama......I swear the world is ending. They are saying they want us to have freedom and in order to do that they need to take a course of action that removes freedom in a way.

Who the hell can we vote for that isn’t so pro “illegal immigrant” and “anti-gun”. Jeepers creepers for crying out loud…..

Sotomayor's a turd but she is essentially correct in that the Second Ammendment has yet to be incorporated to the state level. There isn't legal precedent on a SCOTUS level saying the Second Ammendment applies to the states. Yet.

 

[Bob P]

Incorporated or Not Incorporated?

1st Amendment: Fully incorporated.
2nd Amendment: No Supreme Court decision on incorporation since 1876 (when it was rejected).
3rd Amendment: No Supreme Court decision; 2nd Circuit found to be incorporated.
4th Amendment: Fully incorporated.
5th Amendment: Incorporated except for clause guaranteeing criminal prosecution only on a grand jury indictment.
6th Amendment: Fully incorporated.
7th Amendment: Not incorporated.
8th Amendment: Incorporated with respect to the protection agains "cruel and unusual punishments," but no specific Supreme Court ruling on the incorporation of the "excessive fines" and "excessive bail" protections.

 

[clinotus]

I love the friends with guns comment. Its the new 'I've got black friends' line.

 

[Titan]

Natural rights affirmed in the Constitution don't have to be 'incorporated' into anything, IMHO.

It is ludicrous for anyone to argue a technicality that suggests that residents of Washington, D.C. have an 'individual right to keep and bear arms', but residents of the 50 states do not.

It's absurd on its face.


We're to believe that the 'right to privacy' which isn't even articulated in the Constitution, is supreme because it provides for 'CHOICE', yet the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms (which specifically includes the language 'shall not be infringed') is an 'outdated 19th century' idea. That's what Sotomayor was suggesting this morning.


This B*tch has to be defeated!
.

 

[atilla]

she sure seemed to blink a lot when answering questions, a WHOLE lot--IIRC that's a hint that someone is BSing due to the increased mental stress. she pretty much has the position nailed down with the democratic senate so i couldn't imagine why else she'd be so twitchy about answering questions.

it's worth mentioning that when i was watching she was discussing her quote about how being a latina woman would help her make better decisions than a white man and how she was saying she did not believe any race/gender/religion is better at making decisions and whatnot. blinkblinkblinkblinkblinkblinkblinkblink.

 

[Lynne]

This B*tch has to be defeated!
.

Ain't gonna happen. She'll be SC Justice Sotomayor sooner than any of us want. The only good thing is her appointment won't swing the number in their favor. It'll be a liberal replacing a liberal.

 

[Titan]

she sure seemed to blink a lot when answering questions, a WHOLE lot--IIRC that's a hint that someone is BSing due to the increased mental stress. she pretty much has the position nailed down with the democratic senate so i couldn't imagine why else she'd be so twitchy about answering questions.

it's worth mentioning that when i was watching she was discussing her quote about how being a latina woman would help her make better decisions than a white man and how she was saying she did not believe any race/gender/religion is better at making decisions and whatnot. blinkblinkblinkblinkblinkblinkblinkblink.

I'm so glad others picked up on the blinking.

Her eyelids were moving so fast, and so frequently, she could have kept flies away.

Lying her butt off!
.

 

[BBQ.Uncle]

Natural rights affirmed in the Constitution don't have to be 'incorporated' into anything, IMHO.

It is ludicrous for anyone to argue a technicality that suggests that residents of Washington, D.C. have an 'individual right to keep and bear arms', but residents of the 50 states do not.

It's absurd on its face.


We're to believe that the 'right to privacy' which isn't even articulated in the Constitution, is supreme because it provides for 'CHOICE', yet the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms (which specifically includes the language 'shall not be infringed') is an 'outdated 19th century' idea. That's what Sotomayor was suggesting this morning.


This B*tch has to be defeated!
.

Effing right. If I'm an American citizen then by God the constitution in its entirety applies to me regardless of what GD excuse for a state I reside in.

 

[Titan]

Ain't gonna happen. She'll be SC Justice Sotomayor sooner than any of us want. The only good thing is her appointment won't swing the number in their favor. It'll be a liberal replacing a liberal.

I'm holding out hope that she comes unglued under questioning and opposition continues to grow as a result.

Even Dianne Feinstein mentioned this morning that calls are coming in to her office commenting on Sotomayor being an activist.


THAT'S a very good sign for the opposition.

Let's pray for a groundswell.
.

 

[Titan]

Effing right. If I'm an American citizen then by God the constitution in its entirety applies to me regardless of what GD excuse for a state I reside in.

Amen.

The leftists sure think the Constitution applies to Islamo-fasciscts, without any regard for 'incorporation' BS.

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[Lynne]

I'm holding out hope that she comes unglued under questioning and opposition continues to grow as a result.

Even Dianne Feinstein mentioned this morning that calls are coming in to her office commenting on Sotomayor being an activist.


THAT'S a very good sign for the opposition.

Let's pray for a groundswell.
.

There's always hope. Just don't bet the mortgage on it.

 

[Jason]

The news just had her being grilled by a senator about the 2nd amendment.

I swear sometimes I want to bang my head into a wall. The lady is crazy and she is openly extreme with her views on firearms. She thinks the 2nd amendment is on a Federal level and if a state doesnt want to follow it they shouldn’t have to. If that passes; idiot Deval will be the first to jump on that band wagon.

I'm not sure how it works if she is in power but I pray that she doesnt have the final say in matters such as firearms.

Deval Patrick, Sotomayor, Kennedy, Menino, Obama......I swear the world is ending. They are saying they want us to have freedom and in order to do that they need to take a course of action that removes freedom in a way.

Who the hell can we vote for that isn’t so pro “illegal immigrant” and “anti-gun”. Jeepers creepers for crying out loud…..

Insane, does she not realized that to judicially nullify such a basic right as the second amendment would bring in to question the entirety of the constitution?

 

[Bob P]

Natural rights affirmed in the Constitution don't have to be 'incorporated' into anything, IMHO.

It is ludicrous for anyone to argue a technicality that suggests that residents of Washington, D.C. have an 'individual right to keep and bear arms', but residents of the 50 states do not.

It's absurd on its face.


We're to believe that the 'right to privacy' which isn't even articulated in the Constitution, is supreme because it provides for 'CHOICE', yet the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms (which specifically includes the language 'shall not be infringed') is an 'outdated 19th century' idea. That's what Sotomayor was suggesting this morning.


This B*tch has to be defeated!
.

I agree. The second, as written, is an absolute statement not directed at any 1 branch of the government: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Contrast that with the first - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." where is SPECIFICALLY cites 'Congress'.

The idea that the BOR has to be incorporated is unadulterated BS, but it's what we've been dealing with for over one hundered years.

 

[Bob P]

Amen.

The leftists sure think the Constitution applies to Islamo-fasciscts, without any regard for 'incorporation' BS.

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Titan, I'm not arguing with the spirit of what you're saying. Believe me, I agree with you - but the stuff they want to apply to forigners are the 'due process' issues which HAVE been incorporated. See my earlier post.

 

[Titan]

Titan, I'm not arguing with the spirit of what you're saying. Believe me, I agree with you - but the stuff they want to apply to forigners are the 'due process' issues which HAVE been incorporated. See my earlier post.

Bob,

I understand that you were mentioning incorporation as an obstacle and not accepting it as a limitation with regard to the 2nd.


As for applying 'due process' to terrorists just because it's been 'incorporated' is also BS, in my opinion.

While I think natual law entitiles all men, including terrorists, to defend themselves, I completely disagree that our Founding Fathers intended that 'stateless terrorists' be extended the full benefits of our Constitution.

Anyone captured by the US is entitled to a form of due process. IMO, that could be in the form of long recognized military tribunal format. It doesn't have to mean extension of Miranda rights, habeus corpus, etc.


Sorry, if I've diverted the thread.....Back to business.
.

 

[Bob P]

Bob,

I understand that you were mentioning incorporation as an obstacle and not accepting it as a limitation with regard to the 2nd.


As for applying 'due process' to terrorists just because it's been 'incorporated' is also BS, in my opinion.

While I think natual law entitiles all men, including terrorists, to defend themselves, I completely disagree that our Founding Fathers intended that 'stateless terrorists' be extended the full benefits of our Constitution.

Anyone captured by the US is entitled to a form of due process. IMO, that could be in the form of long recognized military tribunal format. It doesn't have to mean extension of Miranda rights, habeus corpus, etc.


Sorry, if I've diverted the thread.....Back to business.
.

Full agreement

 

[jcetto0351]

hey guys don't worry, she totally understands the second amendment...

from cnn

besides not understanding the second amendment, that's just retarded. It reminds me of morons who make a joke about an ethnic or racial group and say "well it's ok, I've got a friend that's _____" (not laughing, screaming)

She also has a godson who is a member of the NRA so I'm sure we are all safe!

 

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