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Worcester fire Dept LODD
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So sorry to hear that tragic news. May God remember his family’s great loss and his heroic actions.
www.masslive.com
‘We’re still missing one member’; Audio shows intense search in fire that killed Worcester firefighter
“Ladder 5 get to a window and let us know where you are,” a firefighter says in the audio.
Asaltweapon
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I have had a soft spot for WFD after covering the Providence St station for the Cold Storage Fire during the recovery.
Their station patch along with a thank you letter hangs proudly on my wall.
RIP Lt.
Their station patch along with a thank you letter hangs proudly on my wall.
RIP Lt.
deerdad
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The one thing I always make sure I do when we get toned for a fire is to tell my daughter I love her even if I have to send her a text. You can't predict what the outcome may be. RIP.
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Tragic. Sounds like he died trying to help save a woman and baby (who were already out?). "Hero" gets thrown around too freely these days but he was the real deal. RIP Lt. and thoughts out to the wife and three kids he leaves behind.
My Son and other members of his station will be headed down to attend the services.
I hope he rests easier knowing that his family will not be wanting.
It's my understanding there has already been money raised to pay of the mortgage on the house and I'm sure much more to come.
Bless those who run toward danger.
I hope he rests easier knowing that his family will not be wanting.
It's my understanding there has already been money raised to pay of the mortgage on the house and I'm sure much more to come.
Bless those who run toward danger.
what is really sad is how senseless this whole scenario was.
I heard on the news this evening that the fire started because a space heater was placed to close to the curtains and they caught fire.
So a man needed to die because of that carelessness. Makes no sense to me at all.
R.I.P.
Very sad that he and his wife and children were headed to dissent later that day.
No daddy for anymore holidays and birthday or high school graduations or weddings or anything else because someone had no common sense.
I heard on the news this evening that the fire started because a space heater was placed to close to the curtains and they caught fire.
So a man needed to die because of that carelessness. Makes no sense to me at all.
R.I.P.
Very sad that he and his wife and children were headed to dissent later that day.
No daddy for anymore holidays and birthday or high school graduations or weddings or anything else because someone had no common sense.
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tuna
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Definitely worthy of “Hero” title.
Ran in to save a baby with two younger guys, got them out, the last one by throwing out the window. According to the news I read.
RIP
RIP Lt. Menard.
Echoing posts above.... His last act before dying was apparently to throw another FF out a window.... Truly Heroic.
I'm not a FF or cop, but I do work in the EMS world and events like this always make me think of the men and women I know. What if they died? How would I feel?
I lived in Worcester for about 20 years.... The pall of sadness over the city of Worcester in Winter 1999 was terrible... I think a lot of long-time Worcester residents have a sort of PTSD reaction to bad fires in the city. When I got up yesterday and saw the news feed on the phone about injured FFs in Worcester (Menard's death not yet known), I instantly felt sick and thought "Oh no..."
So, not trying to hi-jack this thread, but echoing another post above...... Why? Why has WFD lost 9 guys in 20 years? Statistically, that has to make Worcester one of the most dangerous places in the US for FFs. Absolutely not questioning WFD's competency or profesionalism..... Just trying to understand.... Is it the nature of the buildings and geography of Worcester?, "Inside" vs, "Outside" philosophy? At least seven of those nine died looking for/ trying to save other people... Maybe its just that courage and nobility can be deadly...
Lastly..... Bump. There are threads here that go 100+ posts about stupid, inane shit and and this thread has 17 posts in 2 days as I right this...
Fu#$-ing BUMP NES!
Echoing posts above.... His last act before dying was apparently to throw another FF out a window.... Truly Heroic.
I'm not a FF or cop, but I do work in the EMS world and events like this always make me think of the men and women I know. What if they died? How would I feel?
I lived in Worcester for about 20 years.... The pall of sadness over the city of Worcester in Winter 1999 was terrible... I think a lot of long-time Worcester residents have a sort of PTSD reaction to bad fires in the city. When I got up yesterday and saw the news feed on the phone about injured FFs in Worcester (Menard's death not yet known), I instantly felt sick and thought "Oh no..."
So, not trying to hi-jack this thread, but echoing another post above...... Why? Why has WFD lost 9 guys in 20 years? Statistically, that has to make Worcester one of the most dangerous places in the US for FFs. Absolutely not questioning WFD's competency or profesionalism..... Just trying to understand.... Is it the nature of the buildings and geography of Worcester?, "Inside" vs, "Outside" philosophy? At least seven of those nine died looking for/ trying to save other people... Maybe its just that courage and nobility can be deadly...
Lastly..... Bump. There are threads here that go 100+ posts about stupid, inane shit and and this thread has 17 posts in 2 days as I right this...
Fu#$-ing BUMP NES!
Asaltweapon
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There are a few things that could be an issue on why so many WFD guys have died.
The city has a lot of old school ballon framed buildings. These are fire traps on their own merit. Very dangerous to fight a fire in.
My understanding is they went in for a rescue and you do what you need to do in order to save occupants. My bet is they may have taken chances to save these people.
Fire conditions change rapidly. Command on the outside may have not noticed a rapid change.
When the Cold Storage Fire took down 6 the department was lacking a lot of gear. That was addressed. Updated equipment and much needed communication gear was done but I don’t know to what level.
None of the above takes away the fact that somebody didn’t come home from work and that just plain sucks. These same guys went back to work for a three alarm fire just a few hours after putting this fire out.
It’s nearly 20 years later after W6 and the same old feelings return. To see the residents lining the streets as we were escorted into the city made our eyes water and our throats swell. The radios in the station was very quiet.
The city was In morning.
The book 3000 Degrees was a great read about that W6 fire. My wife happened to pick it up a few years ago and couldn’t put it down. I had already read it twice then read it again after she was done.
The city has a lot of old school ballon framed buildings. These are fire traps on their own merit. Very dangerous to fight a fire in.
My understanding is they went in for a rescue and you do what you need to do in order to save occupants. My bet is they may have taken chances to save these people.
Fire conditions change rapidly. Command on the outside may have not noticed a rapid change.
When the Cold Storage Fire took down 6 the department was lacking a lot of gear. That was addressed. Updated equipment and much needed communication gear was done but I don’t know to what level.
None of the above takes away the fact that somebody didn’t come home from work and that just plain sucks. These same guys went back to work for a three alarm fire just a few hours after putting this fire out.
It’s nearly 20 years later after W6 and the same old feelings return. To see the residents lining the streets as we were escorted into the city made our eyes water and our throats swell. The radios in the station was very quiet.
The city was In morning.
The book 3000 Degrees was a great read about that W6 fire. My wife happened to pick it up a few years ago and couldn’t put it down. I had already read it twice then read it again after she was done.
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He went back in to get his crew out.
Looks like we have some other SAR guys in this thread that understand what that means. I don’t know f-all about structural firefighting, but I DO know more than a little and more than a lot about high risk SAR. It’s not something that can be explained, what that guy did, if you don’t get it, but I have so much respect for him. Every story, every post I’ve read about this I keep getting dust in my eye.
“...and all for what? That others might live to see gone and friends.”
God bless you, LT. You made sure your crew got out safe - I can’t think of any higher praise than that.
Looks like we have some other SAR guys in this thread that understand what that means. I don’t know f-all about structural firefighting, but I DO know more than a little and more than a lot about high risk SAR. It’s not something that can be explained, what that guy did, if you don’t get it, but I have so much respect for him. Every story, every post I’ve read about this I keep getting dust in my eye.
“...and all for what? That others might live to see gone and friends.”
God bless you, LT. You made sure your crew got out safe - I can’t think of any higher praise than that.
TC McQuade
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RIP LT. Jason Monroe
smokey-seven
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I do. It's a judgement call. I've been lucky as well as making good choices. It is a split second decision that your brothers trust you to make. Saint Florian rides on your shoulder as well as those watching from above. Hopefully you run 30 years into a good life, occasionally there are tragic consequences. Nobody can second guess this heroic individual other than his maker.
I wish his family well, and hopefully will meet him in the future to take his hand. God bless and God keep.
Asaltweapon
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Line Of Duty Death
Anyone that knows the Family should try to search for a prior thread (I think it was the death of a police officer), there are a few funds/grants out there and perhaps one from the state where Family can apply and receive some significant money due to the LODD. I'm pretty sure those cover more than police, so worth checking it out.
Very sad situation to lose a hero like that.
Very sad situation to lose a hero like that.
TC McQuade
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ONE-TIME DEATH BENEFIT
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Some additional info here:
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oldguy68
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I always thought firemen were among the bravest of men.
They run into a burning structure and ask for nothing but prayers in return. They are truly humble hero's.
I would rather face a bayonet charge or a machine gun than run into a burning building with the thought of what could go wrong.
My heart sank when I heard Worcester lost another fine fireman.
RIP LT. Jason Monroe
They run into a burning structure and ask for nothing but prayers in return. They are truly humble hero's.
I would rather face a bayonet charge or a machine gun than run into a burning building with the thought of what could go wrong.
My heart sank when I heard Worcester lost another fine fireman.
RIP LT. Jason Monroe
smokey-seven
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Fireman's Prayer
When I am called to duty, God where ever flames may rage, give me strength to save some life, whatever be its age. Help me embrace a little child before it is too late or save an older person from the horror of that fate. Enable me to be alert and hear the weakest shout and quickly and effectively to put the fire out. I want to fill my calling and to give the best in me to guard my every neighbor and protect his property. And if according to my fate I am to lose my life, please bless with your protecting hand my children and my wife.
AMEN
Here is a picture of the Worcester 6 memorial:
When I am called to duty, God where ever flames may rage, give me strength to save some life, whatever be its age. Help me embrace a little child before it is too late or save an older person from the horror of that fate. Enable me to be alert and hear the weakest shout and quickly and effectively to put the fire out. I want to fill my calling and to give the best in me to guard my every neighbor and protect his property. And if according to my fate I am to lose my life, please bless with your protecting hand my children and my wife.
AMEN
Here is a picture of the Worcester 6 memorial:
- The figure represents the present reflecting on what happened in the tragedy. He is a beautifully detailed firefighter, dressed in full modern gear.
- In the middle is a fireman's topcoat folded with a fireman's helmet resting on top. A plaque affixed to the front of the pedestal reads, "On this site on December 3, 1999, six brave Worcester firefighters lost their lives in the Worcester Cold Storage Warehouse Fire."
- Lastly, a 12-foot by 6-foot granite wall depicts six firefighters all working together. The figures are not meant to be likenesses; they "impart the spirit of the job."
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