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I know this is NZ but if it were the US:New Zealand police visited mosque shooter before granting gun licence
Once again we witness the FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT you while claiming to do so AdNauseam
That's nice.I knew a Brazlian dishwasher ... each week he sent his paycheck home ... His plan was to go home after a year ...
What we need is for the Welfare-American community to get off the public teat,... we need guys like that.
But he wasn’t able to get his wife in legally
The thing is, I want legal immigrants. I want hard working dish washing immigrants. Who come here legally. And get real paychecks.That's nice.
What we need is for the Welfare-American community to get off the public teat,
and wash some dishes.
What we've got is Brazilians washing the dishes that Americans can't be bothered to wash.
Which is OK for the Brazilians and OK for the dishes.
But it's stupid to over-tax the dishwashers just to pay for domestic hammocks.
(Your buddy was here legally, right?
His employment was legit,
with tax withholding and no identity theft, right?)
One of the things I'm most sure of
is that I don't want temporary work visas
to entitle the bearers to bring along family members
that won't also have full-time jobs.
No free medical care,
no children in school,
no social services at all.
Not even a tourist visa.
We don't need any anchor babies
9 months after the last conjugal visit.
What we NEED is a working class and a welfare incentive structure that promotes 40 hour workweeks. Look at what happened out west when they raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour? Everyone started asking to work part time due to loosing benefits. If getting a real paycheck has the affect of a NET LOSS in income, then why would any rationale individual chase a real paycheck? The system is incentivized to promote a welfare state where its better to take a handout than go out and work.The thing is, I want legal immigrants. I want hard working dish washing immigrants. Who come here legally. And get real paychecks.
We need them. Badly. We’re not reproducing enough. We need hard working immigrants.
What we don’t want is welfare receiving illegals. That’s what we’re trying to avoid.
We do want good hard working immigrants that are pursuing the America dream for themselves and their children. That’s what our ancestors did. Most of us aren’t here because our ancestors had it so good back in Europe that they decided to come to America and gamble in themselves to make it.
True. And I agree with you.What we NEED is a working class and a welfare incentive structure that promotes 40 hour workweeks. Look at what happened out west when they raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour? Everyone started asking to work part time due to loosing benefits. If getting a real paycheck has the affect of a NET LOSS in income, then why would any rationale individual chase a real paycheck? The system is incentivized to promote a welfare state where its better to take a handout than go out and work.
I am okay with legal immigration to an extent. There is nothing wrong with moderate legal immigration. What is wrong is to suggest that we NEED legal immigration to solve our labor problem. The fact that Americans aren't doing these jobs is a cultural shortcoming but largely a systemic issue. I don't really care if its malicious systemic design, or if its just negligence. Either way our policies are NOT working. And it's only going to get worse as automation replaces low skill jobs.
I recall being about 18 visiting New Orleans with my parents. News was covering "rampant un-employment" but everywhere I walked I saw "help wanted" signs. I asked the folks working what was going on. The response was something like "It's alot easier to sit in air conditioning and collect from the state than it is to come work in this heat, no one wants to work" That really stuck with me. It SHOULDN'T be easier. You can talk all you want about personal responsibility, but end of the day, humans are self serving and largely rationale. If there is an "easy" path, most folks are going to take it. The rest of us shouldn't allow that path to be so easy.
Paraphrasing, but you stated "We NEED him, The problem is he couldn't get his wife here legally"True. And I agree with you.
Did you miss the part about my immigrant friend who was washing dishes to make money to buy cows in Brazil?
I think we’re talking past each other.Paraphrasing, but you stated "We NEED him, The problem is he couldn't get his wife here legally"
My point is we shouldn't NEED him. We should be charitably taking in immigrants to a great and prosperous country. Not "needing them to come wash our dishes" Maybe we do need him, and that is the ROOT problem. We shouldn't. His wife's ability to legally immigrate is not the problem.
Frankly I have no idea how this can be solved.
I see what you're saying. Certainly I agree with you that we should be looking to bring in that type of immigrant versus the alternatives.I think we’re talking past each other.
My point is that we need go getters.
It’s a big topic and we’ve certainly hijacked the thread. I and you can and have identified the problem. I do not at this moment, have a solution. I’m working on one though. Might never come up with a solution.I see what you're saying. Certainly I agree with you that we should be looking to bring in that type of immigrant versus the alternatives.
We are veering out of the "thread topic" but what really troubles me is how to solve the issue without enacting a socialistic solution. E.g. The lack of increase in wages is an issue, and you can't just cut the welfare system if you don't allow for realistic wages. Half the battle is certainly managing expectations, "life of leisure" is not in the cards for these folks. Our media/advertising does a great job of making this reality impossible to accept. But if for instance we 1) Lower taxes 2) Somehow get folks onboard with a realistic level of consumerism/discretionary spending 3) Raised wages, where is the difference going to come from? Just the tax differential? Are we really expecting the results to "trickle down"? I just don't see corporate profit margins being variable that changes.
No, we don't!The thing is, I want legal immigrants. I want hard working dish washing immigrants. Who come here legally. And get real paychecks.
We need them. Badly. We’re not reproducing enough. We need hard working immigrants.
I am glad you carry the conversation right here. It belongs here! This thread is about yet another country using tragedy as an excuse to implement slavery and dependency!It’s a big topic and we’ve certainly hijacked the thread. I and you can and have identified the problem. I do not at this moment, have a solution. I’m working on one though. Might never come up with a solution.
I’ll just leave an anecdote about my experience.
So, for well over a decade I haven’t had cable tv. But I signed up for it a month ago because it was cheaper to have the internet and tv than just internet. For a year, anyway.
So, for the first time in over a decade I have seen commercials.
A commercial came on for a new Chevy truck. Man, the bells and whistles! Look at those tires! Look how little she’s wearing! And I began to think maybe I need a new truck.......
Then my brain activated. Don’t need a new truck. Truck pulls boat just fine. It’s in great shape. And I own it.
But for a fraction of a second, I let them tell me what I need or what I want.
I’ll be killing the cable again next month. Enough of that BS entering my mind.
Maybe that makes sense to you. Maybe not. Either way, that’s the world most people live in.
Needs own thread.German prosecutors arrest 10 suspects over Islamist attack plan | DW | 22.03.2019
Prosecutors in Frankfurt issued a statement on Friday to say the suspects were detained in police raids involving 200 officers in the Frankfurt region earlier in the day.
Commenting on the raids, Hesse state interior minister Peter Beuth said: "Police intervened in a timely manner to prevent possible attack plans at an early stage."
There were no details on the nationalities of the suspects whose ages were given at between 20 and 42 years. They live in the Frankfurt, Offenbach, Wiesbaden and Mainz areas. Eleven people were initially arrested but the investigation was centered on ten suspects.
The main suspects were a 21-year old man from Offenbach and two 31-year brothers from Wiesbaden, all associated with the local Islamist Salafist community. All are German citizens.
The number of registered Islamists in the state of Hesse in 2017 was 4,170, including 1,650 Salafists.
According to the initial investigation, the accused were planning to use a vehicle and firearms to kill as many "unbelievers" as possible. They had rented a large vehicle and made contact with weapons' dealers and started to raise funds.
During the raids, police found and seized over €20,000 ($22,500) in cash, several knives, small quantities of narcotics, a variety of documents and electronic data storage equipment.
The charges include funding terrorism and conspiring to commit a crime. The accused are due to appear before a judge at the District Court of Frankfurt on Friday afternoon.
A number of plots have been foiled by police in recent months, with some similar raids.
I hope she likes the way that head scarf looks on her.I like this part.
Because people almost everywhere in the world know that fewer weapons means greater security. (And in places where they don't know it, things seem to go badly wrong nonetheless.)
Millions of victims throughout history disagree you moron.
Of course, the obligatory PC crap. Pandering without addressing the real problem and punishing law abiding unPC citizens.
After the Christchurch attacks, Ardern did a lot of things right. She wore a headscarf when visiting the local Muslim community. She opened the next parliamentary session with the Arabic message of peace, "As-Salaam Alaikum." And she refused to speak the attacker's name. Her message: I am on the side of the Muslim victims. And: Muslims belong to us.
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1109091297019813889I hope she likes the way that head scarf looks on her.
There may come a day when not wearing it will end in her death.
Ban knives quick !! needs to be done within 72 hrs. Never again !!!.....OH wait, never-mind wrong religion, wrong device, and wrong people.
Yeah, sheep they are. Blissful ignorance.Most of the sheep in NZ are more than willing to comply with the new gun ban:
Gun owner happy to hand in rifle for free, others say law change is causing anxiety