Witnesses say many dead, injured in shooting at New Zealand mosque

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Yes it is

The real question is who would GO here?

Because if Trump somehow loses the next election, there will be an executive order outlawing semi auto rifles and guns. There will.

Who will go?

And regardless of the outcome of the next election, there will come a day when there will be a president who signs an executive order.

What will you do that day?
Nothing! You will pack your bags and leave. That is exactly what I have done and I do not mind repeating it.
 

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So where do you go? There really aren't many alternatives that remain.
You will go where they will need you again. You will go where nobody wants to go yet, and you will get few decades of a good life over there. Do not look for countries, they are all screwed up, look for areas where you can still make a difference. There are plenty of areas like that left in Spain, Eastern Europe, Austria, Portugal......I am not a hero who plans on fighting stupids over here.
 
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You will go where they will need you again. You will go where nobody wants to go yet, and you will get few decades of a good life over there. Do not look for countries, they are all screwed up, look for areas where you can still make a difference. There are plenty of areas like that left in Spain, Eastern Europe, Austria, Portugal......I am not a hero who plans on fighting stupids over here.
The countries that you mentioned are not gun-friendly at all. Expect red tape, required licenses that are difficult to obtain and inspections by police, restrictions on carrying, restrictions on caliber, etc. For example, Spain prohibits semiauto military-caliber rifles, so no .308 or .223. Portugal limits handgun calibers to .32 ACP or smaller. Be careful about trading the frying pan for the fire.
 

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The countries that you mentioned are not gun-friendly at all. Expect red tape, required licenses that are difficult to obtain and inspections by police, restrictions on carrying, restrictions on caliber, etc. For example, Spain prohibits semiauto military-caliber rifles, so no .308 or .223. Portugal limits handgun calibers to .32 ACP or smaller. Be careful about trading the frying pan for the fire.
You have misunderstood my post. There are no gun friendly countries anymore. That is the fact. But, as I said, there are areas where you can still live according to YOUR OWN RULES and you will be left alone. That is what I am after. One area just like that used to be New Hampshire.

When commies will take over Americas playing by rules will become collaboration. I never played by commie rules.
 
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This needed repeating.


No, we don't!

Americans don't have children just because they want to play video games and wear pussy hats on the weekends. They simply can't afford them!

... Instead of reaching them we keep making them richer to keep them from revolting. Nobody wants yellow vests in MA! Nice pussy hats with possibly zero children or maybe just one gender confused kid. That is where it is all going!

How many of you know the welfare recipient who is traveling back to home country sometimes with his/her entire family? We can't possibly violate their rights by cutting their benefits! No! We will STFU and bitch on internet where nobody knows us. Try to report them and watch your state representative in action. Snails move faster under the sea!

So, you want somebody else to come here and work hard? Well, I have news for you, they have arrived and they will implement their own laws and their own rules!

How about making it better for Americans? Instead of wasting money in Syria or giving gifts to Taliban we will give gifts to Americans! Don't we have shi$$y infrastructure? Who said that we need to sit in cubicles in overtime just because we need to pay schools for kids and mortgages? Don't we have desire to live better?

I want Americans to cut immediately all foreign help. It is not needed. I want Americans to pull out of all "hot areas". Bring our men and women in uniforms home! We do not need UN, NATO or any other crap which is just more seats for politicians with pretty bad ideas. We need people who will do concrete tasks. Fix roads, build walls, build safe borders, make great products here! ...
So much truth here! We had two kids, and wanted more, but decided that was all we could afford. Little did we know we could have as many as we want, and just let everyone else pay for them. I am saddened thinking I could have a nice family of 4 kids but opted not to, though realizing I am blessed to have such awesome kids.


Those who do not agree are silent because in the current climate if you open your mouth you will be immediately fired, ostracized, tarred and feathered.
It should be the EXACT 180* of that! Who will go first? The sheriffs in Colorado?
 
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We had two kids, and wanted more, but decided that was all we could afford. Little did we know we could have as many as we want, and just let everyone else pay for them. I am saddened thinking I could have a nice family of 4 kids but opted not to, though realizing I am blessed to have such awesome kids.
Dems will be chasing Trump to the grave instead of providing solutions. Maybe we do not want them to provide solutions like Green New Turd, but if I would be them, I would ask how come families on welfare tend to have more kids supported by government than families not on welfare. This disparity will eventually tax any system. Thinking that they are getting more voters out of the sheep on welfare is misleading because these people do not know what are elections and they have a tough time to get to their own appointments.
 
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Thats why many social welfare programs include voter awareness and even transportation if nessessary. Not much different than a trip to Social Security or a med provider...
 

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Probably, but I get what he meant now anyhow.
Well, it's how I chose to interpret the ambiguity, anyhow.
(But it's a good thing to consider even if he meant something different).
Been battling a wicked cold since Saturday. I think it is one step short of the flu.
It sucks to be interested in an issue,
but distracted by something (illness, work, life, ...).
Get well soon.
 

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How many of you know the welfare recipient who is traveling back to home country sometimes with his/her entire family? We can't possibly violate their rights by cutting their benefits! No! We will STFU and bitch on internet where nobody knows us. Try to report them and watch your state representative in action. Snails move faster under the sea!
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I watched my ex mother in law and other family members do this for years (she's dead now): She'd stay here the requisite 180 something days in order to maintain their green card and go back to the home country for the remainder of the year while her benefits were deposited electronically. She collected SSDI as well as EBT and had medicare/medicaid. She'd come back to the US when she had a doctor appointment. She died of cancer, zero out of pocket expense for a couple of surgeries, chemo plus end of life care (all at an Ivy League teaching hospital). I had cancer two years ago and maxed my out of pocket expenses a couple of years in a row, to the tune of around $18k plus time out of work and other expenses. The thing is, there was nothing to report her for because it was legal, that's the problem. She got her citizenship a couple of years before her death and when there were immigration protests on TV a few years back with people waving Mexican flags she would yell at the TV about how they were degenerates, how dare they. An uglier soul, I have never encountered.
 

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Welcome to Australian Soviet Union:
FAQ: Australia’s new ‘abhorrent violent material’ laws
The new laws create two offences. The first one applies to Internet service providers and providers of a hosting service or content service. It creates an obligation to report ‘abhorrent violent material’ (or material reasonably believed to be abhorrent violent material) to the Australian Federal Police if that service can be used to access the material, and the conduct involved is taking place (or took place) in Australia.
The material must be reported to the AFP within “within a reasonable time after becoming aware of the existence of the material”. A “reasonable time” depends on the circumstances, according to the government. Attorney-General Christian Porter today said that it was unacceptable that the Christchurch attack footage was available on Facebook “for well over an hour without them taking any action whatsoever”.
The second offence relates to a failure to remove or cease hosting abhorrent violent material. It applies to content and hosting service providers. A content service provider is guilty of an offence if they fail to remove access to abhorrent violent material in an “expeditious” manner, if that material is “reasonably capable” of being accessed within Australia. A hosting provider is guilty of an offence if they fail remove abhorrent violent material from their service (again in an “expeditious” manner and if the material is capable of being accessed in Australia).
In these cases it does not matter whether or not the hosting or content service is based in Australia or not, nor whether the material depicts violent conduct in Australia.
This is what happens when nation elects idiots to destroy what was built for centuries.

New Australian Law Targets Social Media Companies Showing Violent Content

According to the law, which passed overwhelmingly Thursday, social media companies would be fined 10 percent of their global annual turnover if material deemed "abhorrent violent material" is not taken down quickly, and its executives could face as much as three years in prison. Abhorrent violent material is defined as acts of murder, terrorism, torture or rape.

The legislation was drafted in response to the March 15 shooting deaths of 50 worshippers at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, which the suspected gunman, Australian white supremacist Brenton Harris Tarrant, livestreamed over Facebook. The footage was widely shared over the popular U.S.-based platform before it was taken down. Facebook said it removed as many as 1.5 million videos of the attacks in the first 24 hours afterward.

The new law was drafted and passed in the final days of the parliamentary session, prompting criticism by some lawmakers and digital advocates that it was rushed without proper hearings. Sunita Bose, the director of the Digital Industry Group, which represents Facebook, Google and Twitter, issued a statement saying the issue "is a highly complex problem that requires discussion" with technology and legal experts.

Arthur Moses, the head of the Australian Law Council, the nation's top lawyers' group, said the law could lead to some "unintended consequences," including media censorship and muzzling people from calling attention to various wrongdoing.

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Now we know the entire process:

1. Register them and finger print them. Call it " a common sense".
2. Ask them to register their purchases. Just in case you are evaporated by unknown space force.
3. Notify them that some purchases in the past are no longer legal and call them "potential felons". Execute Maura's Massage Step #1.
4. Order them to bring all their toys. To protect children!
5. If they show you a finger upgrade their status from felons to gang members. Activate nuclear watch option!
6. Now you are not terrorizing citizens, you are fighting gang members! Concerned public will understand your terror better!
[thumbsup]

Let's see how many NEW gang members Green New Zealand will get in the next few months.[popcorn]
 

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The "hand them back" language is infuriating. They weren't given, loaned, etc. They were purchased, and not from the government.

The "buyback" language in the US is similarly awful. Manipulative messaging. It's (intentionally) reminiscent of "Ok, you've had your fun, now put away the toys" schoolmarmy language. Utterly condescending. Utterly manipulative of the public discourse.
 

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Yesterday, New Zealand became a penal colony again:
Parliament overwhelmingly votes for tougher new gun laws in wake of Christchurch terrorist attacks

The final vote came in at 119 for the amendment and one against.

The changes to New Zealand’s gun laws are set to include a ban on semi-automatic weapons and military style semi-automatics, a ban on parts, magazines and ammunition that could be used for modification into a semi-automatic and a ban on pump-action shotguns with more than a five shot capacity.

The amnesty period for unlawful weapons, magazines and ammunition to be handed in will be until September 30.

It is anticipated the gun law reform will become law on Friday.
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It takes less than one week to convert democracy into a tyranny. It was never any different! Take a note!
 

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Yesterday, New Zealand became a penal colony again:
Parliament overwhelmingly votes for tougher new gun laws in wake of Christchurch terrorist attacks

The final vote came in at 119 for the amendment and one against.

The changes to New Zealand’s gun laws are set to include a ban on semi-automatic weapons and military style semi-automatics, a ban on parts, magazines and ammunition that could be used for modification into a semi-automatic and a ban on pump-action shotguns with more than a five shot capacity.

The amnesty period for unlawful weapons, magazines and ammunition to be handed in will be until September 30.

It is anticipated the gun law reform will become law on Friday.
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It takes less than one week to convert democracy into a tyranny. It was never any different! Take a note!
Were they ever a real democracy ?
The UK pretends they are until push comes to shove and then the real nature of their government comes out.
 
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