Washington state approves ban on semi-automatic rifles: ‘We refuse to accept gun violence as normal’Story by Associated Press • 1h ago

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We all knew someone would ban semiautomatic rifles. The only surprise here is that it isn’t California, New York, or us.

ASSOCIATED PRESS
BELLINGHAM, Wash. — A ban on dozens of semi-automatic rifles cleared the Washington state Legislature on Wednesday and the governor is expected to sign it into law.

The high-powered firearms — once banned nationwide — are now the weapon of choice among young men responsible for most of the country’s devastating mass shootings.

The ban comes after multiple failed attempts in the state’s Legislature, and in a year that has seen the most mass shootings during the first 100 days of a calendar year since 2009.

The Washington law would cover more than 50 gun models, including AR-15s, AK-47s and similar style rifles, which fire one bullet per trigger pull and automatically reload for a subsequent shot. The bill bans their future sale, distribution, manufacture and importation, although some exemptions are included for sales to law enforcement agencies and the military in Washington.

The law would go into effect immediately once it’s signed by Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee, who has long advocated for such a ban. When the bill passed the state House in March, Inslee said he’s believed in it since 1994 when, as a member of the U.S. Congress, he voted to make it a federal law.

“We refuse to accept gun violence as normal. Gun violence, in all its forms, can be prevented,” Inslee tweeted after the legislation first passed the Senate, thanking the Democratic lawmakers who control both chambers.

A ban on so-called assault weapons is far off in the U.S. Congress. But President Joe Biden and other Democrats have become increasingly emboldened in pushing for stronger gun controls — and doing so with no clear electoral consequences.

Nine states including California, New York and Massachusetts, along with the District of Columbia, have already passed similar bans, and the laws have been upheld as constitutional by the courts, according to Washington’s Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

In Colorado, lawmakers debated on Wednesday about a slew of aggressive gun control bills, but a sweeping ban on semi-automatic firearms faces much stiffer odds.

When Biden and other lawmakers talk about “assault weapons,” they are using an inexact term to describe a group of high-powered guns or semi-automatic long rifles, like an AR-15, that can fire 30 rounds quickly without reloading. By comparison, New York Police Department officers carry a handgun that shoots about half that much.

During debate on the Washington state bill, Democrats spoke of frequent mass shootings that have killed people in churches, nightclubs, grocery stores and schools. Sen. Liz Lovelett of Anacortes said that kids’ concerns about school shootings need to be addressed.

“They are marching in the streets. They are asking for us to take action,” Lovelett said. “We have to be able to give our kids reasons to feel hopeful.”

Republican state lawmakers opposed the ban, with some contending school shootings should be addressed by remodeling buildings to make them less appealing as targets and others saying it infringes on people’s rights to defend themselves.

“HB 1240 clearly violates our state and federal constitutions, which is why it will end up in court immediately,” Sen. Lynda Wilson of Vancouver said.

Some gun-control legislation in other states has been struck down since last year’s landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling, which set new standards for reviewing the nation’s gun laws. The ruling says the government must justify gun control laws by showing they are “consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.”

Washington’s ban was part of a gun legislation package proposed by Inslee and the state attorney general. The other two bills approved by the Legislature this session include a 10-day waiting period for gun purchases and a bill that would hold gunmakers liable for negligent sales.

The first would allow people whose family members die from gun violence to sue if a manufacturer or seller “is irresponsible in how they handle, store or sell those weapons.” Under the state’s consumer-protection act, the attorney general could file a lawsuit against manufacturers or sellers for negligently allowing their guns to be sold to minors, or to people buying guns legally in order to sell them to someone who can’t lawfully have them.

The second bill would require gun buyers to show they’ve taken safety training. It would also impose a 10-day waiting period for all gun purchases — something that’s already mandatory in Washington when buying a semi-automatic rifle.

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Washington state approves ban on semi-automatic rifles: 'We refuse to accept gun violence as normal'
 
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YOU DID IT, YOU STUPID MAGNIFICENT BASTARDS... DELIVERED ON A SILVER PLATTER
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I lived in Washington in the early 90’s for 3 years. Glad I did not stay. It was pretty 2A friendly back then.
Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and Colorado were infested with Californian locusts in the 1990s-2000s.
 
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YOU DID IT, YOU STUPID MAGNIFICENT BASTARDS... DELIVERED ON A SILVER PLATTER
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Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and Colorado were infested with Californian locusts in the 1990s-2000s.
Absof***ingutely. The company I worked for was mostly staffed by Californians they moved up there.

I was in Vancouver WA. So I was too close to Portland OR
 
Misleading headline? It appears they banned so-called “assault weapons” and not all semi-automatic rifles.


Interesting...it includes semi-automatic pistols with threaded barrels:

"(vi) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer"


Frank
 
When Biden and other lawmakers talk about “assault weapons,” they are using an inexact term to describe a group of high-powered guns or semi-automatic long rifles, like an AR-15, that can fire 30 rounds quickly without reloading. By comparison, New York Police Department officers carry a handgun that shoots about half that much.

Anyone know if Four Seasons carries these handguns?

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Interesting...it includes semi-automatic pistols with threaded barrels:

"(vi) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer"


Frank
So a pistol with a picatinny rail that can accept a forward handgrip is now a feature?

Yay, oppression!
 
Hmm, gun violence being new normal = bad.

IIRC didn't that moist p*ssy fart former gov. of NY(as well as plenty of others internationally) say awhile back that living with terrorism is the new normal?

So homegrown violence bad, imported violence good. Happy to finally be on the same page. :rolleyes:
 
Interesting...it includes semi-automatic pistols with threaded barrels:

"(vi) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer"


Frank

It just occurred to me that the proposed RI AWB (which is likely to get passed as well) has almost the exact same verbiage with regard to pistols with threaded barrels.

:mad:


Frank
 
Misleading headline? It appears they banned so-called “assault weapons” and not all semi-automatic rifles.

Mr Gunsngear on youtube and others have talked about the WA laws and in the law they have wording that specifically bans certain semi auto rifles and those that are identical to them, so now the AR, AK, SCAR, MP5, Galil, Mini 14, etc. are banned.

They pretty much covered all semi auto rifles as they had over 60 specific models in the law.
 
My youngest is bailing out of that shithole for Dallas. I spent much of my adult life there--sad to witness WA's implosion.
 
This sucks greatly. But it seems like you can get around the semi-automatic rifle ban by going the fixed magazine route. The legislation reads that the rifle cannot have a fixed magazine capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. Therefore, a fixed magazine "rifle" that is not marketed as, or created as, an AR-15 seems like it would escape the AWB, which is later referenced in the bill as being okay along side rifles in 22LR. But, then again, can an AR-15 or AR stye rifle be an AR and have a fixed magazine? The challenge is making it separate from AR patterns.

Moreover, seems like if you have the detachable magazine and no pistol grip, you can figure something out. In other words, as terrible as this is, I think some manufacturers will be able to poke holes in this if they choose to sell in Washington State. The bill doesn't mention what happens if you pin/weld a thread protector, thus removing the possibility of using the threads. That is, it doesn't mention anything about gunsmithing activities making rifles "compliant."

Of course, I could be reading this all wrong. But, generally speaking, every AWB that has ever passed hasn't been written well enough that it ends up being a full semi-automatic weapons ban.

Looking forward to the future auto-lever reset lever action AR style lever action rifle that, due to its action, is not an AW.
 
It just occurred to me that the proposed RI AWB (which is likely to get passed as well) has almost the exact same verbiage with regard to pistols with threaded barrels.

:mad:


Frank
Yup and it was introduced by the Governor and the AG just like in RI. So obviously all these Dem runned states were given the same exact bill from the DNC or Everytown
 
Supposedly, Judge Benitez is waiting for the second that they sign this so he can drop his decision and nullify it before it even starts. So once again, we gotta put all our hope in the judiciary branch hoping we get a decision like Bruen. because Bruen really scared the piss out of them…

Clarence Thomas better not book any ski vacations 🤔🤔
 
Interesting...it includes semi-automatic pistols with threaded barrels:

"(vi) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer"


Frank
I believe that Washington State allows suppressors. So, how do you attach it if there are no threads? Duct tape?
 
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