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Walther PPK
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wolf223
don't.
*speaking of the S&W made PPK's in Houlton, ME
these guns have been subjected to a recall and quite frankly, they suck.
IMO, get a Walther PPS if you like the size of the PPK.
*speaking of the S&W made PPK's in Houlton, ME
these guns have been subjected to a recall and quite frankly, they suck.
IMO, get a Walther PPS if you like the size of the PPK.
Since I got the restrictions lifted on my LTC a S+W PPK/S has been my carry piece of choice. It's been totally reliable so far and accurate enough for self defense situations. I like the DA/SA on it as I can carry it with one in the pipe and de-cock it and have the hammer down with the safety off. The DA trigger pull is horrendous but once it goes to SA mode follow up shots are easy. It does have a slight bite to it and you probably won't want to spend a long range session shooting it but this would be the least of your worries in a self defense situation. It conceals well in an IWB holster. I've been using a Don Hume IWB holster with good results. Also mine was part of the recall but I haven't sent it back as I haven't had any problems with it and I don't want S+W to mess up a good thing.
btnh6668
NES Member
I have a S&W PPK i bought a few months back and it has been flawless. Put 3-4 different types of ammo through it and it took it like a champ. Not sure why people knock the newer ones but i have had no issues after about 600 rounds. The key is to make sure its properly oiled.
Just to add to my prior post one of the things I have against the gun is there is no manual slide lock on it. The slide only locks back if you have an empty mag inserted and you pull back the slide or you've fired your last round it'll lock back on the empty mag. It can be a little bit of a hassle when you're trying to fix a FTE or FTF.
ppk/S
I had one, beautiful looking gun, didn't like the recoil, also harder to clean the fixed barrel. I purchased a beretta 85fs cheetah 380 and never looked back. great range gun lot's of fun to shoot, very accurate with low recoil. same weight as the ppk. cheetah 8+1 vs ppk 6+1. cheetah is .5" longer and 1" higher
cheetah is a quality gun no issues with mine in over 1000 rounds, however about $200 more than the walther.
fyi... good luck
note: four seasons is selling the two tone model for $449 if you are interested.
I had one, beautiful looking gun, didn't like the recoil, also harder to clean the fixed barrel. I purchased a beretta 85fs cheetah 380 and never looked back. great range gun lot's of fun to shoot, very accurate with low recoil. same weight as the ppk. cheetah 8+1 vs ppk 6+1. cheetah is .5" longer and 1" higher
cheetah is a quality gun no issues with mine in over 1000 rounds, however about $200 more than the walther.
fyi... good luck
note: four seasons is selling the two tone model for $449 if you are interested.
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How is the DA/SA trigger on them? I shot a family members Glock 27 the other day and fell in love with it. Does the trigger on the Walther feel as good as the Glock?
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seanc
NES Member
Completely different.. The glock has a constant trigger pull..Generally @ 6lbs. The PPK has a da trigger pull in the neighborhood of @ 12-15lbs (depending on the gun), followed by long SA trigger pull in the 7lb ish area.
The PPK was made as a .32 (and later upped to the 380). In 32, it is an amazing gun that does everything really well. but by today's standards, it is way too large.
In 380, if you get one that functions well, or send it to be tweaked by a good gunsmith they are nice as well. But, they do suffer from a lot of muzzle flip.
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wolf223
and the slide will tear up the web of your hand. ![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
45collector
NES Member
If S&W had never taken over production of the PPK, there would be many more fans of the gun than there are now. (or at least less haters) Too bad Interarms went out of business over a decade ago because they were the last to distribute the PPK, PPK/S with close to German quality. The only thing better about the S&W models are the sights. The elongated grip tang is hideous. I've never been slide-bitten by my early 90's Interarms stainless PPK/S so I guess I just don't see the need for it.
I had Greg Derr stiple the front and backstraps, dehorn the sharp edges, and beadblast the factory brushed stainless finish. I've had the gun 10 years and I just had all that done last month. Its my summer gun so it won't see my hip again until June. I know what some will say about the .380 being insufficient for SD, Yeah yeah I've heard it before. I trust the gun and shoot it well.
I had Greg Derr stiple the front and backstraps, dehorn the sharp edges, and beadblast the factory brushed stainless finish. I've had the gun 10 years and I just had all that done last month. Its my summer gun so it won't see my hip again until June. I know what some will say about the .380 being insufficient for SD, Yeah yeah I've heard it before. I trust the gun and shoot it well.
SLG6056
NES Member
I had one of the new ones made in S&W's Maine plant. The first one went back for FTF problems. They "fixed" it and sent it back....still didn't shoot. They sent me another one, same thing. Finally they just sent me a refund. I agree with Dench and Wolf.... don't.
I ended up getting a used Kahr PM9. It's been flawless.
I ended up getting a used Kahr PM9. It's been flawless.
seanc
NES Member
the p232 is huge and weighs a ton.
if you really want a ppk, then either start looking for a well used old one (preferably Geman) or factor in having a gunsmith getting the gun to be 100% into the cost of a new one..
one-eyed Jack
Manufacturer
I have a PP also and really like it Jack.
Run away, fast, and don't look back.
Not to mention... A .380 as a range gun? Never in a million years. That little gun is brutal on the hands, too.
On a good day a PPK or PPK/S .380 is a marginal carry gun that's easy to carry.... if you get one that isn't a piece of crap... which these days, is a pretty big IF.
-Mike
Not to mention... A .380 as a range gun? Never in a million years. That little gun is brutal on the hands, too.
On a good day a PPK or PPK/S .380 is a marginal carry gun that's easy to carry.... if you get one that isn't a piece of crap... which these days, is a pretty big IF.
-Mike
JuergenG
NES Member
The ones growing on trees over here are no crap at all - after all S&W didn't get their hands on them
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