ridleyman
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I like HK's but 'finest'?
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I like HK's but 'finest'?
Is anyone concealing a VP9sk or a USPc? These guns are just a tad too large for my CCW liking. And is the P2000sk discontinued?
I can’t find the P2000sk anywhere. I was originally interested in this gun but gave up.I carry a USPc sometimes, when I’m wearing more than just a T-shirt. It’s not the flattest or leanest carry gun but I love it. The p2000 conceals a little better but I guess I just like the USPc more. The p2000sk is a great, well made little gun that can be found for bargain prices and conceals well if you can live with the short grip (I can’t).
I can’t find the P2000sk anywhere. I was originally interested in this gun but gave up.
How does the USPc trigger compare to the VP9sk?
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Weird, I used the exact same IWB holster for both the USP 40 and the G23? Both guns locked into it and didn't come out.Maybe OWB it feels like that but IWB, hell no. and I've carried most of the family. Outside of the G19 (which is identical to a 23 in footprint) a USPc or even a P2000 has significantly
more lard on it. Although the P2K seems much closer to a 19/23 than a USPc is, because of the slide profile. Honestlry if I had trained with the LEM trigger I had, more... I probably would have just kept the P2K. I could never get used to the long-ish reset in the long run. IMHO the P2K LEM would have been stellar if they were all bruce gray specials out of the
box. (At the time I didn't have Bruce take care of mine because he wsa stupidly busy and I didn't want to wait months to get the gun back Not his fault, just a reality of the
business. )
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Do you shoot the VP9 noticeably better?I carry a full size vp9 with holosun 507 red dot IWB in a tulster kydex holster in the winter. With Jean's, good carry belt and a hoodie/ jacket it prints but honestly the only people who ever notice are other CCers
People are so oblivious I stopped worrying about printing. It is way too big for summertime with a t shirt though. That's when I swap it out for the p365
Faster follow up shots for sure. But I ascribe that to the red dot.Do you shoot the VP9 noticeably better?
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I despise it. It is too far for me to reach with my thumb. The spring is too stiff. Using your trigger finger for something other than the trigger right next to the trigger guard seems like a bad idea to me.I know people hate on the paddle style release but having used it myself for awhile I love it.
I know people hate on the paddle style release but having used it myself for awhile I love it.
I remember trying to buy a new mainspring from HK. It took 1/2 a dozen phone calls and a couple months. Completely f***ing useless company.Both HK and glock are stuck in the 90s. At least glocks customer service is good, unlike HK whose warranty is as good as Sears'.
I’m in the market for another HK rifle, probably an MR556 or MR762. I’m digging my G36 conversion from an SL8.What about their rifles and shotguns?
Both HK and glock are stuck in the 90s. At least glocks customer service is good, unlike HK whose warranty is as good as Sears'.
I was that kid who won alot of thumb wars in school so even with the larger grips attached my thumb lines up perfectly with the paddle release. Having said that other people who've shot my vp9 and dont have long thumbs hated it most notably my father who has smaller hands.I despise it. It is too far for me to reach with my thumb. The spring is too stiff. Using your trigger finger for something other than the trigger right next to the trigger guard seems like a bad idea to me.
I had two USPc that I sold. Those guns had the worst DA trigger ever made and the SA trigger was at best meh.
HKs are horridly overpriced and just generally way overhyped. Are they decent guns? Sure, OK, but a Glock 19 is overall a better gun and costs 40% less.
I wear a large size glove, but really have to shift the gun in my grip to reach the HK mag release.I was that kid who won alot of thumb wars in school so even with the larger grips attached my thumb lines up perfectly with the paddle release. Having said that other people who've shot my vp9 and dont have long thumbs hated it most notably my father who has smaller hands.
I shoot my vp9 best out of anytlthing I have. Getting better with the G45 though and will probably transition over to glock stuff eventuallyDo you shoot the VP9 noticeably better?
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They are of the highest quality and made in the US....butbut....they're tactical
HKs are horridly overpriced and just generally way overhyped. Are they decent guns? Sure, OK, but a Glock 19 is overall a better gun and costs 40% less.
Yes, but IMHO the cost isnt that dramatic. It's a handgun under a grand, whoopty do. The out of box QC is great, too.
Also the VP70Z is calling and wants to have a word with you about bad DA triggers. A USP isnt really bad, sand paper a wolff kit and an hour fixes a lot of sins.
There are a lot of valid whines about HK handguns but I don't really find the pricing that absurd to begin with. Actually on the VP9s there were basically giving them away for Glock prices up until about 3 yrs ago and then they tweaked things a bit because they realized that at $549 they were basically just giving the things away and people would pay more, on average.
Actually if anything I have a bigger issue with the pricing of the magazines etc. the consumable cost on both of those brands, on their newer handguns is rape level compared to
Glock and even CZ. Even the dealer cost of HK and Sig doublestack mags for things like the P320 is f***ing insane now.
HK and Sig Selling Magazines:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXdNcKF_n4U
Meanwhile in Glock land I can have a drum of mags for cheap money.
I put a minus connector in all of my Glocks. It makes the trigger passable.I had a USP and it was a decent gun. Sold it because it was a .40 LOL in the days before everyone was shitting on .40. As I recall the trigger was decent and a world apart from a Glock trigger. Since that time I have bought several Glocks and no HK's mainly due to the purpose for the Glocks- everyday carry, truck gun, etc. I can tolerate the world's worst pistol trigger for the reliability, value, and ease of servicing a Glock. I think an HK is a nicer gun but I don't really have a purpose for one. Love to have a Mk 23 but there are other things I'd rather spend that level of $$$ to obtain.
Did you not know of hkparts.net or something?I remember trying to buy a new mainspring from HK. It took 1/2 a dozen phone calls and a couple months. Completely f***ing useless company.