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Thinking about serving in the military. Any tips or things I should know?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MassachussettsMosinNagant, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. SgtHal75

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    You’ll probably have a tranny drill instructor the way things are going these days...I wouldn’t worry about anything
     
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    If you’re joining the military because you think every day your gonna walk into this cage full of guns for you to shoot, your in for a big surprise. If you only spent four years in the military no matter what’s your MOS is, 95% of it is going to be repetitive and boring. I joined the Infantry thinking I was going to be like Rambo every day. It was more like once or twice a year, including deployments. If you want a combat arms MOS there are definitely more opportunities for you in the army than in the Marines, kills me to say that but facts are facts.
     
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  5. rwl1955

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    Correct, you can go Regular Infantry, Ranger Battalion, SF and Delta. Army is much larger than USMC so more opportunities if you want to be a high speed Rambo. We are still fighting wars and SpecOps guys are getting deployed constantly. Co-workers son joined the Marines 2 yrs ago, he's sitting in Hawaii "training".
     
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    The Marine Corps is a smaller branch no doubt, but by proportion I'm sure the numbers in combat arms is similar. Anecdotes about where your friends kids are are useless.

    My biggest concern is the OP seems to not have a great grasp on reality based on a previous thread. While there are plenty of eccentric people in the military, they generally don't excel.
     
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  7. whacko

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    The army has 5 combat support soldiers for every infantry soldier in the field. Log, medical, hr, engineer, mitary police etc is massive in order to support combat operations. There is much more room for career advancement in the combat support mos.
     
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    As I said, I think the proportions are similar in the USMC/USA. ~20% combat arms if I recall
     
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    "The Marine Corps is a smaller branch no doubt, but by proportion I'm sure the numbers in combat arms is similar. Anecdotes about where your friends kids are are useless."
    really? The Army has Infantry, Rangers, SF, etc. deployed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Africa fighting terrorists, ISIS etc. My point is if you want to get into the fight the Army is a better bet, If you're looking for a skill that translates to the outside world AF/Navy might have better options. My co-workers son, who by his Fathers admission is a POS, made it thru USMC boot camp FWIW.
     
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    I have friends in the regular USMC infantry who got back from Afghanistan within the last 6 months, and friends headed out the door to go downrange as well. That's anecdotal, what's your point? The Marine Corps has regular infantry, Battalion Reconnaissance, STA Platoons, and Raiders (which fall under SOCOM). They have Marines in Afghanistan, on MEUs, and in other shit-holes around the world.

    Boot Camp sucks, but as I said if you don't quit and aren't mentally ill or entirely physically unprepared you'll make it through. Doesn't mean it will be fun or easy.

    As far as skills that translate to the outside world, all branches offer options on that front. The AF/Navy will provide you a better quality of life while pursuing those options, however.
     
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    The POINT is the Army is a much larger org. and you have much more opportunity whether for a deployment or for promotion.
     
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    Cover up any tattoos and be very cautious what you say during the interview. When they saw the WN tattoo on my left arm (bicep), that was it. A tersely worded letter arrived a few weeks later, explaining that WN beliefs are not consistent with the United States military core values and that I was being rejected as unfit for military service. Oh well...whatever! Like I really give a shit at this point. I am focused on finishing college. I have less than two years to go.
     
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    Seconded. I have a DD214. That's all I'm going to say about my "service."

    If you have a mental condition such as anxiety or depression or autism or ADHD or something, the military is probably not a place for you assuming they'll take you. If it's something "mild" like anxiety, you probably don't even know you have it. The problem is the military will exacerbate any latent condition you might have. You're going to be isolated, under large amounts of pressure and stress, in a new environment, and will have to build a new support group in rapid time while also having your life controlled 24/7. For some people, this is no problem. If you're not quite "normal", this may be a problem for you.

    The Private Pyle comment in OP concerns me. If this is something you're worried about going in, then the military might not be right for you. No amount of cheerleading, saying "the military made me into the man I am now", is going to cure any potential issues you might have. It's like asking if everyone should be a construction worker - sure, it can pay well eventually and doesn't require tens of thousands of dollars of student loan debt, but are you physically built for it and able to live that life? Not everyone can. Military is the same way but more demanding.

    The type of people who I know that benefit the most from the military are the kids who need "straightening out." If you need order in your life that you can't self-impose, then you'll enjoy the military. Though the problem for those guys is when they get out - they no longer have externally-imposed order.

    Don't plan on going into the military and being the next Orde Wingate or Bernard Law Montgomery if you're not quite like the rest of humanity. There's plenty of career options out there for people who are independently-minded, such as law, business, science, or anything that requires creativity. Make beer, not war.
     
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    Boy, I just read your other thread. You've got a series of really important screws that need re-tightening. You are exactly the kind of ray of f***ing sunshine that shouldn't be anywhere near heavy equipment and devices designed to kill people. Go see a specialist and have him find out what exactly your major malfunction is, and take it from there.
     
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    Making the assumption you mean white nationalist (If I'm wrong, ignore this)... You further prove that you're an idiot if you think that you can hide a tattoo by covering it up in the initial interview. The Military was absolutely correct, there is no room for you in the service. They probably saved you some dental work.

    I love this, "Like I give a shit, I am going to college, mahhh." Classic whimpering and wining from someone unfit for service... It's just utterly hilarious that it's cause you're a white nationalist piece of shit, and not for some immutable reason. From your other posts I see you're 19... god I wonder what happened to you to make you such an ass. I hope you grow up, for your sake.
     
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    Join the Navy or the Air Force because you’ll have a much better chance of a bed each night and three meals.
     
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    On a serious note - military service is not for everyone. For different reasons.

    OP said he has education - if it is college degree, he should consider Officer "track".
     
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    Found a link to his post...

    It's time soon gents, nut up or shut up. World War 3. The voiceless vs the Alt Left Media Machine.

    He started this thread and replied throughout. I just don't see this guy being compatible with military life.

    When my son went through basic and a bunch of other training there were folks who either dropped out or were pushed out. Stress was huge. And there were mental breakdowns and a few suicides along the way.

    Boot camp and military life will bring what ails you to the surface fast and hard.

     
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    I have no advice to give, but lots of responses and nothing from the OP in response. Will be interesting to see the response about the other thread.
     
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    There are rarely true attempts or successful suicides in boot camp, lots of rumors about them though, and lots of people who feign it to get out. It's typically big news when someone dies in any manner in some form of recruit training (think of that kid who jumped off the the 3rd deck at Parris Island a few years ago).

    That said, you have people like Bergdahl who are mentally ill who make it through, and end up causing all sorts of trouble. If you look at the world through an entirely different lens than the majority of your peers, as OP appears to in his other thread, you are not going to do well in the military.
     
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    How true!

    When I was at officer basic course for trans at fort eustis Virginia years ago as a new 2nd lieutenant I started the school in the bachelor's officers quarters. Single room with bed, closet, study desk and a TV. Shared bathroom down the hall. The army sold that building to the air Force and we all moved to the new officers quarters built on post. The air Force used that old officers quarters to house junior enlisted for a school they were running on eustis and the airman received additional subsistence allowance for living in it.

    Camp Edwards mass......has a training forward operations base comete with hesco barriers barbed wire and guard towers. Army uses it for training......the whole army.....officers and enlisted. I was eating lunch one day at a restaurant on post by the air guard side and sat with some air Force pilots.......an air Force major asked me "hey what's with the prison they built over there in the army side of post"? I almost spit my lunch out laughing.......sir that's not a prison it's where we live.

    2003 to 2004 in Iraq I spent more than 3/4 of my nights in conveys sleeping under a flat bed trailer on the dirt than in a tent or building. Ate mre 3 a day for weeks on end back then.

    The hype about army vs air force living conditions is real.

    However.....I never complained.....laugh about it now actually.


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    Sweet mother of God. OP, I'm going to partially chalk that up to the indiscretions of youth as you're 22. But you will be in for a very rude awakening when you have a black or Hispanic Chief Petty Officer/Master Sergeant telling you what to do.

    You absolutely should not join the military if you aspire to some Rhodesian/Dylann Roof white supremacist fantasy camp. I sincerely question if you'll be able to redeem yourself on here.
     
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    HA!HA! I remember that cartoon, we had it hanging in the Arms room. I've slept under my hootch(poncho stretched between 2 trees with 550 cord, bungee cords and aluminum stakes) in snow, rain, torrential down pours, hot, humid nights with mosquitos, etc. I was fun for a while but as I got older it was a PIA. If you're not an outdoors type join the AF.
     
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    Aaaand GONE just like that. Called it.
     
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    What is "WN"? All a google search turns up is something about Russian midget pron. Not kidding! It's really in the result set.
     
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    "There are rarely true attempts or successful suicides in boot camp, lots of rumors about them though, and lots of people who feign it to get out. It's typically big news when someone dies in any manner in some form of recruit training (think of that kid who jumped off the the 3rd deck at Parris Island a few years ago)."

    As I stated I was 33 when I arrived at FT.Benning and was in great shape. 2nd day of boot camp we had the diagnostic PT test and I smoked it. In my Platoon was Virgil Hoffman, a big, goofy white kid from Missouri. He couldn't do 5 pushups or 10 situps, how he shipped is beyond me. My Drill Sgt. told me it was my job to mentor him and try to get him in some kind of shape to pass his PT test to graduate. After 6 weeks it was quite apparent there was NO WAY he would graduate and he mentally quit. He started getting up in the middle of the night and he would stand at the end of a recruits bunk with his etool and just stare at you with a shit eating grin on his face. The young in's would freak out thinking that poor Virgil would hack them to death in the middle of the night. I would laugh my ass off but eventually I had to let my Drill SGT. know. We knew what he was up to and eventually they pulled him from training. My Drill, SSG. Saunders told me there was no way in hell he was going to allow Virgil to leave FT.Benning before we did. Virgil was a road guard at our graduation from 11B school, HA!HA!
     
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    White nationalist. Aka Nazi.....formerly skinhead .
     
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