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ThisYou had started a thread with some very harsh criticisms of our country and politicians. You obviously hold some strong opinions and it appears resentment of what is happening in our country. The thread was closed...
Honest question for you to consider. If you were given an order to do something you felt was wrong would you be able to follow the order?
Strong personality and opinions vs the military chain of command could be an issue for you.
Think about it...
Correct, you can go Regular Infantry, Ranger Battalion, SF and Delta. Army is much larger than USMC so more opportunities if you want to be a high speed Rambo. We are still fighting wars and SpecOps guys are getting deployed constantly. Co-workers son joined the Marines 2 yrs ago, he's sitting in Hawaii "training".If you’re joining the military because you think every day your gonna walk into this cage full of guns for you to shoot, your in for a big surprise. If you only spent four years in the military no matter what’s your MOS is, 95% of it is going to be repetitive and boring. I joined the Infantry thinking I was going to be like Rambo every day. It was more like once or twice a year, including deployments. If you want a combat arms MOS there are definitely more opportunities for you in the army than in the Marines, kills me to say that but facts are facts.
The army has 5 combat support soldiers for every infantry soldier in the field. Log, medical, hr, engineer, mitary police etc is massive in order to support combat operations. There is much more room for career advancement in the combat support mos.The Marine Corps is a smaller branch no doubt, but by proportion I'm sure the numbers in combat arms is similar. Anecdotes about where your friends kids are are useless.
My biggest concern is the OP seems to not have a great grasp on reality based on a previous thread. While there are plenty of eccentric people in the military, they generally don't excel.
The POINT is the Army is a much larger org. and you have much more opportunity whether for a deployment or for promotion.I have friends in the regular USMC infantry who got back from Afghanistan within the last 6 months, and friends headed out the door to go downrange as well. That's anecdotal, what's your point? The Marine Corps has regular infantry, Battalion Reconnaissance, STA Platoons, and Raiders (which fall under SOCOM). They have Marines in Afghanistan, on MEUs, and in other shit-holes around the world.
Boot Camp sucks, but as I said if you don't quit and aren't mentally ill or entirely physically unprepared you'll make it through. Doesn't mean it will be fun or easy.
As far as skills that translate to the outside world, all branches offer options on that front. The AF/Navy will provide you a better quality of life while pursuing those options, however.
Cover up any tattoos and be very cautious what you say during the interview. When they saw the WN tattoo on my left arm (bicep), that was it. A tersely worded letter arrived a few weeks later, explaining that WN beliefs are not consistent with the United States military core values and that I was being rejected as unfit for military service. Oh well...whatever! Like I really give a shit at this point. I am focused on finishing college. I have less than two years to go.Hello everyone
I'm not sure if it was last week or maybe 2 weeks ago that the idea first hit me, but I keep getting more and more confident that it's the right choice for me. I am nervous as I assume many are when they first decide to join. If i'm being completely open, their are plenty of things that aren't what I imagine to be the way I want them in my life. A lot of things I want to fix but it seems the right avenue isn't opening up. I have a job but not a career, it's disposable with no room for improvement, no brotherhood, no leadership. Feels like i'm dragging my feet with it. My city is pretty bad with crime and job oppurtunity. I have the education, I put in a lot of effort over the past few years getting certain licenses but once I feel things are looking up, they don't really go any further then scraping by or being complacent. I think many of these things the brotherhood and the leadership mentality of the US Armed Forces would help me conquer and in a sense I will find myself.
Although I do have a job, I wouldn't call it a career. I don't feel fulfilled with it. And it might even be all in my head as my friends consider it a good job. I'm still only 22, but time is ticking away fast. And before long I will be too old to turn back and undo what has been done. It's essential now I try new things, become a better man and build upon my knowledge for the future. I used to always tell myself I'd fight in a war once their was a war worth fighting in. But WW3 is never going to happen at least not for the next 30 years and I think it's time I enroll.
Main questions I have
Is basic training as bad as the movies proclaim? Is modern Basic Training as bad as it was before? My main haunting shadow of doubt is Private Pyle from Full Metal Jacket lol. But I know that's just a movie and I have also heard our current Basic Training isn't as harsh as it was circa Vietnam era.
Do you reckon they will put most people as a ground troop or will their be a possibility i'm a chef or a barber?
What happens to all my stuff when I leave? Who will pay the tag on my truck or keep my things from getting stolen? Protect my guns. The rent. My Truck's insurance, and things of that nature. How do those things get paid under my name if i'm not around? Do they let you pay for those things online?
I'm really not sure what to expect, which is why I am here to ask fellow gun lovers, and the many brave veterans on here about their experiences. I would like to know the basics of what to expect.
What I want from the experience at this point is way beyond money or a job, I need structure. I need to meet new faces and feel like I pushed myself to be better. It's essential for me.
Thank you for any help.
The Marine Corps is a smaller branch no doubt, but by proportion I'm sure the numbers in combat arms is similar. Anecdotes about where your friends kids are are useless.
My biggest concern is the OP seems to not have a great grasp on reality based on a previous thread. While there are plenty of eccentric people in the military, they generally don't excel.
Cover up any tattoos and be very cautious what you say during the interview. When they saw the WN tattoo on my left arm (bicep), that was it. A tersely worded letter arrived a few weeks later, explaining that WN beliefs are not consistent with the United States military core values and that I was being rejected as unfit for military service. Oh well...whatever! Like I really give a shit at this point. I am focused on finishing college. I have less than two years to go.
WN?Cover up any tattoos and be very cautious what you say during the interview. When they saw the WN tattoo on my left arm (bicep), that was it. A tersely worded letter arrived a few weeks later, explaining that WN beliefs are not consistent with the United States military core values and that I was being rejected as unfit for military service. Oh well...whatever! Like I really give a shit at this point. I am focused on finishing college. I have less than two years to go.
Boy, I just read your other thread. You've got a series of really important screws that need re-tightening. You are exactly the kind of ray of f***ing sunshine that shouldn't be anywhere near heavy equipment and devices designed to kill people. Go see a specialist and have him find out what exactly your major malfunction is, and take it from there.
Found a link to his post...
When my son went through basic and a bunch of other training there were folks who either dropped out or were pushed out. Stress was huge. And there were mental breakdowns and a few suicides along the way.
Boot camp and military life will bring what ails you to the surface fast and hard.
How true!Join the Navy or the Air Force because you’ll have a much better chance of a bed each night and three meals.
Found a link to his post...
It's time soon gents, nut up or shut up. World War 3. The voiceless vs the Alt Left Media Machine.
He started this thread and replied throughout. I just don't see this guy being compatible with military life.
HA!HA! I remember that cartoon, we had it hanging in the Arms room. I've slept under my hootch(poncho stretched between 2 trees with 550 cord, bungee cords and aluminum stakes) in snow, rain, torrential down pours, hot, humid nights with mosquitos, etc. I was fun for a while but as I got older it was a PIA. If you're not an outdoors type join the AF.How true!
When I was at officer basic course for trans at fort eustis Virginia years ago as a new 2nd lieutenant I started the school in the bachelor's officers quarters. Single room with bed, closet, study desk and a TV. Shared bathroom down the hall. The army sold that building to the air Force and we all moved to the new officers quarters built on post. The air Force used that old officers quarters to house junior enlisted for a school they were running on eustis and the airman received additional subsistence allowance for living in it.
Camp Edwards mass......has a training forward operations base comete with hesco barriers barbed wire and guard towers. Army uses it for training......the whole army.....officers and enlisted. I was eating lunch one day at a restaurant on post by the air guard side and sat with some air Force pilots.......an air Force major asked me "hey what's with the prison they built over there in the army side of post"? I almost spit my lunch out laughing.......sir that's not a prison it's where we live.
2003 to 2004 in Iraq I spent more than 3/4 of my nights in conveys sleeping under a flat bed trailer on the dirt than in a tent or building. Ate mre 3 a day for weeks on end back then.
The hype about army vs air force living conditions is real.
However.....I never complained.....laugh about it now actually.
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Cover up any tattoos and be very cautious what you say during the interview. When they saw the WN tattoo on my left arm (bicep), that was it. A tersely worded letter arrived a few weeks later, explaining that WN beliefs are not consistent with the United States military core values and that I was being rejected as unfit for military service. Oh well...whatever! Like I really give a shit at this point. I am focused on finishing college. I have less than two years to go.
White nationalist. Aka Nazi.....formerly skinhead .What is "WN"? All a google search turns up is something about Russian midget pron. Not kidding! It's really in the result set.