The Stars Aligned and Wonderful Things Happened....Winchester M1 Garand

[majspud]

Got the staples out of my neck yesterday and was cleared to drive after 9 days. Same surgery 10 years ago kept me down 6 weeks. Progress in action.

Went to my LGS to get a couple of boxes of .32acp JHP to try in the PPk.

There was a Garand behind the counter; well its mine now. I finally am getting my Winchester. May '44 receiver, Lock-Bar rear sight, RA-P stock, WRA-TG and barrel, SA-19 bolt, SA-12 cut op rod. Only downer is the bore which seems a little rough (not true; bore is good). Needs a spring job; the bolt won't close under its own inertia.

I put $200 down. Question now is, do I pay it off or trade in my '41 SA for the rest? I don't think I really need three Garands.

Went to the range and shot a box of Hornady 60gr JHPs, moving back to 50 feet. Very hard to see the target/white out; bright sun and no clouds. Had to push the slide forward a snitch five times to set the round in the chamber, but no misfeeds - got better as time went on. Ordered a new recoil spring from Wolff which should settle things.

So, three or two Garands...I do like the early SN I have...

It's funny, when you're not looking for something it falls into your lap. First the PPk, now the Winchester.

T

 

[dw617]

Nice score !

 

[majspud]

Going back to trade in my '41.

T

 

[spcantwell]

I never understand you people who 'sell' or 'trade in' guns. Even though I ran out of room 5 guns ago I can't imagine getting rid of any. I can't even bring myself to chop down one of my POS nagants for the obrez I want to build. I will just wait until I find anouther one...

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[daekken]

Very nice, hope you got a good deal on both the new acquisition and trade-in.

 

[OldNorth]

Double check that oprod to make sure it's not all bent up! Nothing wrong with a little horse trading to get what you want. Glad you're feeling better.

 

[majspud]

Owner is out to lunch; so I am too. Good news; the bore is clean, although worn.


T

 

[majspud]

Double check that oprod to make sure it's not all bent up! Nothing wrong with a little horse trading to get what you want. Glad you're feeling better.

I'll do the 'tilt' test when I get back.

T

 

[mac1911]

please dont trade the 41 just sell it here for cost....

As for your winchester you could always rebarrel it?

You could keep the 41 for extra parts...

 

[majspud]

No dice; he wants guns going out, not in. No big deal, I'll just put it on the trader. There was a little hang up on the tilt test, enough not to fall when vertical. Seems a little rubbing somewhere. Small thing as the bore is in good shape.

Stock serial number is stamped inside the stock.

Re-uploaded full size pics.

T

 

[daekken]

Someone created a thread recently in the firearms section about wanting an M1 from CMP. I would think it wouldn't be tough to move it. Congrats on the Winchester. Range report when?

 

[majspud]

Range report as soon as I sell my '41 and install the Orion spring kit. I also want to chase down that little hang up on the op-rod.

T

 

[dhuze]

............Question now is, do I pay it off or trade in my '41 SA for the rest? I don't think I really need three Garands.................

How can you buy 4 if you don't have 3?

 

[majspud]

Nah, don't need four. Got my Winnie and a sharp Springfield. Not interested in an IHC or HRA. Still need that last Mauser, but things keep getting in the way.

T

 

[HiCap]

Let me know if you need to move a garand. Pm me price if you do decide to sell.
Will

 

[dw617]

No dice; he wants guns going out, not in. No big deal, I'll just put it on the trader. There was a little hang up on the tilt test, enough not to fall when vertical. Seems a little rubbing somewhere. Small thing as the bore is in good shape.

Stock serial number is stamped inside the stock.

Re-uploaded full size pics.

T

Tilt test is over rated. Real test is if the rifle functions during live fire.

 

[majspud]

Picked up a moderate finish complete WRA bolt off eBay for $70. Already rebuilt with new extractor and plunger. Only part I'll change. I'll keep the SA-19 as a spare or sell it if someone needs it.

T

 

[mac1911]

Picked up a moderate finish complete WRA bolt off eBay for $70. Already rebuilt with new extractor and plunger. Only part I'll change. I'll keep the SA-19 as a spare or sell it if someone needs it.

T

Might want to check your headspace when you get that new bolt.

 

[majspud]

Dupe. Computer hung up.

T

 

[majspud]

I never understand you people who 'sell' or 'trade in' guns. Even though I ran out of room 5 guns ago I can't imagine getting rid of any. I can't even bring myself to chop down one of my POS nagants for the obrez I want to build. I will just wait until I find anouther one...

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We trade up upgrade our collections or use equity to change focus. I have (had) two SA Springfields. The '41 sold on our forum in under an hour. What I really wanted is a Winchester (as does everyone else), and they are really hard to come by. Winchester made the fewest Garands; only 250,000 compared to 6 million by SA alone, and 428K by H&R, and 338K by IHC. My son is not interested in shooting. I don't need three, and save for paying the 'premium' of the Winchester name I came out even. I recently sold 13 pieces (1/4) of my collection, narrowing my focus from general WWI and II to mostly German and American WWI and II. My pet project is to collect all 10 makes of German WW2 K98s. At $1000+ per example I have to let some pieces go in order to concentrate on my main interest. The sale netted five of the remaining six Mausers I need, although there are three more special variants I would also like to get. I could have had the last Mauser, but I interrupted the search to net two other pieces high on my list - a Walther PPk and the Winnie.

T

 

[majspud]

Might want to check your headspace when you get that new bolt.

I don't have a head space gauge for 30/06.

T

 

[Fattman]

Edit ... should have read full thread

 

[mac1911]

I don't have a head space gauge for 30/06.

T

I do as should any half decent gun shop...

The lugs may be more or less worn than your current bolt.

Just a good thing to check ..

 

[jpm]

wouldn't lose any sleep over not headspacing it and wouldn't hesitate to shoot it with either bolt.

 

[dw617]

Not all Garand bolts created equal....sometimes swapping bolts can fix a headspace issue...or introduce a headspace issue. That's why it's important to check headspace when swapping bolts. I have experienced installing a -2 bolt into a rifle in an effort to "correct" it and it no longer closing on go gauge.




Shortest- SA-12s, Winchester and PB bolts(Same as Winchester).
Then -14 SA
-19 SA
65-series
and finally -2 SA bolts were the longest

 

[mac1911]

wouldn't lose any sleep over not headspacing it and wouldn't hesitate to shoot it with either bolt.

Yup lots of folks use the "if the round chambers " is good enough for me test.
I'm not one of them. I like to know if my rifle at least passes a field gauge....

 

[majspud]

I'll remember to ask when I pick it up. Mac, maybe we can meet up some day soon and check the head space and the slight stick in the op-rod.

T

 

[mac1911]

I'll remember to ask when I pick it up. Mac, maybe we can meet up some day soon and check the head space and the slight stick in the op-rod.

T

Possible.... the head space is best checked with a stripped bolt I have go and no go.... I don't have a field.
I will be at Pembroke on the 16th I can,bring my gauges.?
Also the guys down Hanson on 1st Sat and 3 rd Sunday often have their tools with them. They like checking out guns...

 

[Maninblue1861]

Got the staples out of my neck yesterday and was cleared to drive after 9 days. Same surgery 10 years ago kept me down 6 weeks. Progress in action.

Went to my LGS to get a couple of boxes of .32acp JHP to try in the PPk.

There was a Garand behind the counter; well its mine now. I finally am getting my Winchester. May '44 receiver, Lock-Bar rear sight, RA-P stock, WRA-TG and barrel, SA-19 bolt, SA-12 cut op rod. Only downer is the bore which seems a little rough (not true; bore is good). Needs a spring job; the bolt won't close under its own inertia.

I put $200 down. Question now is, do I pay it off or trade in my '41 SA for the rest? I don't think I really need three Garands.

Went to the range and shot a box of Hornady 60gr JHPs, moving back to 50 feet. Very hard to see the target/white out; bright sun and no clouds. Had to push the slide forward a snitch five times to set the round in the chamber, but no misfeeds - got better as time went on. Ordered a new recoil spring from Wolff which should settle things.

So, three or two Garands...I do like the early SN I have...

It's funny, when you're not looking for something it falls into your lap. First the PPk, now the Winchester.

T

I had 64 m1 garands at one point. Great to look at multiples.

 

[majspud]

I do that with Mausers! Got two slots left; one for a RC barreled action XII Depot build (Mainz-Kastel Depot - only 6397 ever made), and the BSW. The other three or four on my list will have to go in the safe.

T