Agreed and the stuff is peppy. The PMC 45 hollows are about the same exact price and if I didn’t grab craploads of Federal hi-shok I would gobble those up too. Yes, I can be a skinflint from time to time.
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The problem with some of the cheap 45 carry ammo though is it acts like ball of course somebody might have run some tests on the PMC and it might do okay. Results could be surprising I wonder if tnoutdoors9 has ever tested any of it... Thankfully I probably have about a thousand rounds of good crap between 230gr gold dots, Win Ra45t, Fed HST, and Hornady critical duty all of which are pretty much top performers....
Gold Dots are tops especially when TS did the fire sale at half off.
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PMC Starfire HP? You might as well be shooting ball, no expansion to speak of and over penetration right out the back of a 16" gel block and halfway through a second. Not really hot though average muzzle velocity of just 742 fps, I would be willing to bet Winchester WB would match that.
Link to ballistic gel test...
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During those sales I bought plenty of the 185gr Gold Dot .45 which actually outperforms their 230gr load for depth of penetration and expansion.
Wolf gold 5.56 still in stock. Two orders in two days and I’m already half way to break even on the membership.
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Local shop had ammo at pretty much TS ammo prices after shipping so I snatched some up instead of ordering. No membership here. 62gr instead 55gr too. Should have grabbed more 9mm too....are they shipping quickly again?
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I got 5.56 Winchester WB M855 locally cheaper than TS. Unfortunately they had only 10 boxes (of 20) left so I cleaned them out.
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My most local shop is hot brass which isn't even really a shop anymore.
PMC starefire in 9mm was pretty bad for me. Expansion in a large 50 gallon barrel of water did absolutely nothing .PMC Starfire HP? You might as well be shooting ball, no expansion to speak of and over penetration right out the back of a 16" gel block and halfway through a second. Not really hot though average muzzle velocity of just 742 fps, I would be willing to bet Winchester WB would match that.
Link to ballistic gel test...
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TS is a class act and a well run operation as far as I can tell. And they’re convenient. And their prices are good. Can’t ask for more than all that.
Not only that, but I wish I had paid the $95 for a membership sooner. The 8% savings and free shipping is perfect for someone like me who can’t typically afford a full case. I saved $20+ on My 6 boxes of mixed .223 and 9mm yesterday and $25 on 20 boxes of Wolf Gold this morning. It’s more than worth it for the free shipping alone in my case.
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Not sure what you're getting on about. The hoping the delivery goes better bit or the fact that the stock of .40 on the shelves at the LGS gets thinner and thinner with every panic?
220gr CD > GDs
Apologies I misread your comment out of context, reading it again it makes sense now.
230 GDHPs are still a great performer though... esp out of 4"+ guns.
Might have to try out some Hornady then. You have that baby yet ?
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Are you talking critical duty or defense?
True, 9mm GD are tits too.
but for short bbl fotay-fives, Critical Dooty wins
That would be painful...Might have to try out some Hornady then. You have that baby yet ?
But yes, last Monday. All is well. Your Maternity ward was great. Tons of hot nurses too.
Dooty. IIRC, Critical Defense was subpar. I’d have to rewatch TNoutdoors9
Not Starfire. The Bronze stuff.PMC Starfire HP? You might as well be shooting ball, no expansion to speak of and over penetration right out the back of a 16" gel block and halfway through a second. Not really hot though average muzzle velocity of just 742 fps, I would be willing to bet Winchester WB would match that.
Link to ballistic gel test...
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I thought duty was for full-size and defense was for compact? I run defense in my sub compact .380 but got a good amount of duty for $10/box for my .40 Glock. .45 is a mix these days.
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Four Seasons price for 9 a week go was the same as TS, but as of this weeks email blast, they are rationing ammo again.
For the 45’s on this particular vid the HST, GD, and Remmy GS Had the biggest expansion. The HST and GD look very clean. The Golden Sabre looks angry.
View: https://youtu.be/3R9UcRJ3Lsk
When I was younger I used to get a case of wolf and just start taking them out of those little boxes and dump all the ammo into a huge pile. I think a narrow .30 cal ammo can holds like 500 rounds of 7.62 x 39. I often wondered why they used that packaging, then I saw a video from the factory where GT is made and it made a lot of sense... the russian factories spent a lot of effort making the fancy machine that puts the finished ammo in those little boxes.... ![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
so someone is obviously proud of that machinery.
so someone is obviously proud of that machinery.The problem with the parks, the campgrounds are at 1/2 capacity. Good for me, I service 5 campgrounds on / around Cape.
When I was younger I used to get a case of wolf and just start taking them out of those little boxes and dump all the ammo into a huge pile. I think a narrow .30 cal ammo can holds like 500 rounds of 7.62 x 39. I often wondered why they used that packaging, then I saw a video from the factory where GT is made and it made a lot of sense... the russian factories spent a lot of effort making the fancy machine that puts the finished ammo in those little boxes....
lol, same here..I have whatever amount I'm legally able to own x39 loose in .30 cal ammo cans.
And a few cases of GT and Wolf.
And some Lapua.
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Lol. That, and the boxed ammo sits nicely on a sales shelf. The loose ammo... not so much.When I was younger I used to get a case of wolf and just start taking them out of those little boxes and dump all the ammo into a huge pile. I think a narrow .30 cal ammo can holds like 500 rounds of 7.62 x 39. I often wondered why they used that packaging, then I saw a video from the factory where GT is made and it made a lot of sense... the russian factories spent a lot of effort making the fancy machine that puts the finished ammo in those little boxes....
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