putting a saiga up against a cheap out of the box stock remington 1100, 1187 or mossberg is like putting up a chevy cavalier against a v8 mustang. it's not even fair. Once you get the saiga working perfectly, figured out what ammo you're going to use, and you've gone and done the Ak conversion, and you've spent more in mags than you would for that stock remington, sure, it'll smoke the remington if standing reloads are required in a stage. But if you go up against someone who has mastered reloading those tubes, and he can do it on the move, you're going to get beat. the saiga is great, i would only rather have a usas12 or spas15. But unless you've got: 550 to over 700 (price gougers) for the basic saiga model, a gun that was like 250 from CDNN about 3 years ago or less when they were dumping them, then you're going to spend: another 150-200 converting it if you do it yourself, or another 500ish from Tromix. Then you'll want at least another 6 mags, and you're going to buy either 10 round AGPs, which some fools are actually asking over 100 each for out there when you can just buy them directly from AGP for like 50 a piece, thats another 300 then you're going to spend time tuning those mags to fit your gun, because chances are your guns tolerances are off enough that the mags wont fit without a bit of trimming. Not a big deal if you've got a dremel. then you'll want something to stick an optic on there, $100 for the top rail, then you'll want a sight, say you get something cheap for 150 then, you'll want chokes, and if you can find them, you'll spend 80 something for them, or just send it to briley and have a set installed for big money then you'll tell yourself you must have the mag well, so you'll buy that and get to dremeling more mags, which will become useless to any other saiga you may have that doesnt have a magwell. of course if you want to shoot slugs, and they are high brass, you've got a little more mag work to do if you have the AGPs then you'll probably want a drum mag for it.... so if you're ok with spending 1 to 2 thousand turning a saiga into a great gun, with all the toys, then cool, go for it. but if you want to just dabble in the shotgun matches, which there are very few of in this area, spend a couple hundred on a used 1100 or 1187, (which you can typically find at skeet clubs) get yourself some $25 chokes, and a bandolier to carry the ammo, and you're good to go, real cheaply. And if someone says, you need a Benelli because you can pull the trigger fast enough to outrun the cycling system on a remington, call Shenanigans.