Shooting reported outside Empire State Building

[gene]

Nothing to see here as it sounds like a store worker that was fired yesterday was the perp.

 

[Supermoto]

How many were shot by the gunman and how many by the cops?

 

[Baystatesuks]

He was fired by Shanghai Henson Import and Export Co., Ltd. yesterday.

Didn't George Costanza work there or own it?

 

[ColdDayInHell]

One bystander has been pronounced dead. More than 10 shot.


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[SkydiveGuy]

Bloomberg is on TV live.... he just said that the cops could have possibly shot bystanders. Great.

He also said it was an 8 round capacity in the pistol.

Good thing they banned those >10 round mags!

 

[porkpiehat]

wow, Bloomberg is really trying to play down the possibility some of the victims were shot by the police,

 

[RG617]

and a shoulder thingy that goes up

It helps to balance it out when the bayonet is attached.

 

[Jaxon06]

I am easily irritated, but...why is a mayor of one city even commenting on what another city chooses to do? The only thing better is when a mayor attempts to offer advice and create policy on breastfeeding.

Cause Albany is the state capital?

 

[Prepper]

this so hard. if you see something, say something. it's for your safety, citizen.

I see that NYC is a very dangerous place. Who do I say something to?

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

It helps to balance it out when the bayonet is attached.

really? I thought it was to help with the pistol grib hyper accurate hip firing, dam i need to do more research [sad2]

 

[Palladin]

Watching msnbc. Shooter had a 1911 with 8rd mag. He took out his former boss, 2 in the head, walked past the building security guard, who according to a witness, was hiding under the desk. Construction worker outside notified Leo on foot patrol, others in cruisers arrived. Prep drew on Leo they returned fire causing the nine bystander injuries!!!!

Awesome.

 

[atilla]

not surprising given the amount of rounds the NYPD does fire when they use their firearms. accuracy doesn't surprise me, either.

 

[nightpoison]

"There is no doubt that the situation would’ve been even more tragic except for the extraordinary acts of heroism,” Bloomberg said in a media conference. “New York City is the safest big city in this country but we are not immune to the national problem of gun violence.”

What an a**hat.

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[RedFive]

not surprising given the amount of rounds the NYPD does fire when they use their firearms. accuracy doesn't surprise me, either.

I'm not a cop basher, but some really bad judgement here. Firing at a fleeing suspect in a crowded area, and liberals think we're trigger happy cowboys??? ...

 

[Jeff1000]

See, we need more gun control.


Stock up!

 

[terraformer]

Nothing to see here as it sounds like a store worker that was fired yesterday was the perp.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/empire-state-building-shooter-fired-year-ago/story?id=17072385#.UDenKkKOyTo
He was fired a year ago.

BTW: It looks like NYPD cops shot 8 out of the nine who were wounded... Only one of those 8 were the suspect. Way to go NYPD. Now can we discuss police tactical responses to a man with a gun? Can we now admit that having every cop on scene engage the suspect is tactically a stupid thing to do?

 

[Scarecrow]

See, we need more gun control.


Stock up!

I have plenty of gun control: Firm grip, finger out of the trigger guard until ready to fire...

 

[jefftk]

Bystanders shot by police?? Unpossible!

I thought one of the reasons average citizens couldn't be trusted with guns is because they don't have the supreme marksmanship and target discrimination capabilities as police - this is the reason we should leave it to the professionals!

Will have to wait for all the details, so I'm not going to be too quick to condemn the cops, a shoot out on a street in NYC during rush hour certainly has a higher than average risk of crossfire...

 

[Prepper]

I find it mind boggling that anyone could actually be that inaccurate. A gang banger doing a drive by a house, with the people concealed behind walls, gets more correct hits than this.

Maybe the cops didn't know (or care) who the perp was and just started shooting anyone that looked like a person exiting the building?

 

[pdm]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/empire-state-building-shooter-fired-year-ago/story?id=17072385#.UDenKkKOyTo
He was fired a year ago.

BTW: It looks like NYPD cops shot 8 out of the nine who were wounded... Only one of those 8 were the suspect. Way to go NYPD. Now can we discuss police tactical responses to a man with a gun? Can we now admit that having every cop on scene engage the suspect is tactically a stupid thing to do?

It's not stupid if they hit what they're aiming at. I mean, I wouldn't want them to wait for some dude to show up with "extra special training" if I was in danger of dying right then.

 

[Bill Katt]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/empire-state-building-shooter-fired-year-ago/story?id=17072385#.UDenKkKOyTo
He was fired a year ago.

BTW: It looks like NYPD cops shot 8 out of the nine who were wounded... Only one of those 8 were the suspect. Way to go NYPD. Now can we discuss police tactical responses to a man with a gun? Can we now admit that having every cop on scene engage the suspect is tactically a stupid thing to do?

See, this is why only the military and the police should have guns. [/sarc]

 

[jefftk]

It's not stupid if they hit what they're aiming at. I mean, I wouldn't want them to wait for some dude to show up with "extra special training" if I was in danger of dying right then.

If its true that most of the bystanders were shot by the police, then you might not be any worse off by waiting!

 

[OB1Kenobi]

It's not stupid if they hit what they're aiming at. I mean, I wouldn't want them to wait for some dude to show up with "extra special training" if I was in danger of dying right then.

+1

we need every cop to have extra special training, full kits and body armor.

[insert pic here of the transit cop w/ the Eotech on backwards]

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If its true that most of the bystanders were shot by the police, then you might not be any worse off by waiting!

hence, you take yourself out! don't wait! this is why i only carry ONE bullet.

 

[pdm]

+1

we need every cop to have extra special training, full kits and body armor.

[insert pic here of the transit cop w/ the Eotech on backwards]

Hah! I'd settle for good pistol shooting instead of Real Ultimate Mall Ninja Power.

 

[IrishGun]

In a press conference, Mayor Bloomberg stated, " "New York City is the safest city in the country but we are not immune to the national problem of gun violence." He then commented, "There's an awful lot of guns out there."

What a Mook! This guy gets the award for biggest A**hat of the year.

 

[newportri]

It's not stupid if they hit what they're aiming at. I mean, I wouldn't want them to wait for some dude to show up with "extra special training" if I was in danger of dying right then.

So do you think they were aiming at innocent bystanders since they hit a few of them? The police (and anyone else in a similar situation) is responsible for every shot fired regardless where it hits, and I expect the police to be held accountable. I can see some big lawsuits coming...

I don't consider shooting a pistol being "extra special training", it should be mandatory training for all LEO. Unfortunately, many don't practice more than what's required by their department and you end up with innocent bystanders getting shot.

 

[Da_lucche]

Ehhhh is it worth it to say anything to OP?

Im glad I dont have asshats of the kind on my FB

 

[not new guy]

Where does she want guns to go to?

 

[Tyke]

wow, Bloomberg is really trying to play down the possibility some of the victims were shot by the police,

He should be playing it up! See? Even TRAINED PROFESSIONALS are unsafe with them! So you mere pleb civilians cannot be trusted with them!

 

[OfficerObie59]

Fox, who was wearing ear buds at the time, did not hear the gunfire -- but she saw the aftermath.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-empire-state-building-20120824,0,6473112.story

So much for situational awareness.

The mayor said some of the wounded "may have been accidentally" shot by police officers.
...
"He tried to shoot at the cops... We do not know if he got any shots off," Bloomberg said.

Er...whoops.

I guess they should have taken the Mayor's advice and gone on strike.