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Also given gas retarded blowback i have a hard time believing the gun won't overheat after 4-5 mags, just like a P7M8... making extended practice unbearable....$5k is waaay too much. And if this doesn’t get approved for production in USPSA, then it’s forced into limited or open. Who’s going to spend that kind of money when you can get STI limited gun for less.
It’s a very cool design but unless I’ve got just so much money I don’t know what to do with, I ain’t buying it.
Are they trying to reduce the slide weight or just keep the sights from moving?
Also given gas retarded blowback i have a hard time believing the gun won't overheat after 4-5 mags, just like a P7M8... making extended practice unbearable....
I’m not sure overheat is accurate, but unbearably warm might be. I would be interested how quickly it heats up. I think that was also an issue with the Walther CCP. This gun looks like it begs to be run hard so I am curious. If it got to the point where you were burning your hands and melting holsters during competition, then you have a definite issue.
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I want the Mars Marine wrist gun thing from The Expanse. Recoil directly aligned along your arm bones. Not a long range setup without some seriously integrated optics, but short range, minute of man accuracy with recoil management optimized.
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I don't understand the design, fundamentally. Are they trying to reduce the slide weight or just keep the sights from moving? I'd like to see a gun with as little slide movement as possible, like from the bolt face back is all that moves. Reduce the mass that moves when the gun is fired and compensate for recoil by gas venting or some other means.
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Taking my thinking to the absolute retard extreme, the gun would almost recoil 'downwards' if you aren't ready for it.
They're just trying to kill recoiling mass, less recoiling mass = less muzzle flip; the gas retard blowback system dampens the slide velocity without screwing up the guns cycling like overspringing it would....
Silencerco Maxim 9I'm not a huge historian when it comes to firearms, but has anyone made a gun like what I described? Everything fixed in front of the breech/bolt face and just move enough to eject/reload. Something like only the back half of the slide moving. I know there would be feed ramp issues, but nothing I can't see someone engineering a fix for.
I could see current design being a compromise, I don't know how much force is applied where and when. "My" design would almost be like a bolt action that kinda self articulates. I could see recoil being worse, but with compensators being so common, I'd think it could be overcome.
Another million dollar idea....gone .Silencerco Maxim 9
Also given gas retarded blowback i have a hard time believing the gun won't overheat after 4-5 mags, just like a P7M8... making extended practice unbearable....
Well, that certainly makes it a lot better, then, and the large size/mass probably helps, too...The P7 has the gas cylinder under the barrel, as part of the frame, right above your trigger finger.
The Alien has it above the barrel, so I don't think burning your shooting hand will be a problem.
I'm not a huge historian when it comes to firearms, but has anyone made a gun like what I described? Everything fixed in front of the breech/bolt face and just move enough to eject/reload. Something like only the back half of the slide moving. I know there would be feed ramp issues, but nothing I can't see someone engineering a fix for.
I could see current design being a compromise, I don't know how much force is applied where and when. "My" design would almost be like a bolt action that kinda self articulates. I could see recoil being worse, but with compensators being so common, I'd think it could be overcome.
Well, that certainly makes it a lot better, then, and the large size/mass probably helps, too...
Unfortunately, that's what I was thinking, but BIGGER . What gun is that and did it work? .22's barely recoil as it is, but that's what I was imagining in my mind.