Proposed federal Banned gun list??

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A friend of mine from another fourm sent this to me and I thought it might get some interest here. I really hope it's not true and if it is I hope it never makes it into law.[angry][angry][angry]


Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
Author Gun Laws of America
Jan. 5, 2008

Gun-ban list proposed.


Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats
have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when
they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress)
It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms
dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've
made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47,
AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique
National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or
Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.
Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can
accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5
rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits..

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomaticrifle or
shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based
on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes,
as determined by the Attorney General."

Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15)
wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a
working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "thereshall be a rebuttable presumption that
a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency
is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be
particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a
sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military
is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because

it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a
rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted,

Alan Korwin,

Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Forward or send to every gun owner you know.....
 
ive heard of no such list

ive heard of no such list so far

basically the only thing ive heard was that pelosi basically said "not going to pass on my watch" :)
 
That looks like the ban list from HR 1022. IIRC that fizzled, but I wouldn't doubt it would be used as a template for any new AWB proposal in the next few years.
 
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heller would invalidate this law. since they are banning specific weapons by name.

really, cause I read this this morning and am absolutly speachless at the moment... I can not clearly articulate my anger without saying things that may land me in jail right now... read and fester...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

it is coming boys & girls... and dont think for a moment that anything is safe.
 
Pelosi had a heart attack when she heard someone else was going to take credit for an AWB and killed it.

Really, any new gun law is going to cost a huge amount of political capital, and the Dem's don't want to loose any power for as long as they can.
 
ok... blood preasure returnig to normal... breathing back to normal... stopped dropping the "F" bomb after every thrid word... thanks for the info.

BTW, on a side note, I'm a little bothered that I got that link from Carl at 4 seasons... maybe he doesnt have all the info.
 
Gun Ban List

I just checked my mail and seen this from my buddy in Texas. If this is a dup post my bad admin please delete.



2-17-09.

Subject: The Gun Ban list is out.
Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and then it will be a done deal. ...thanks to Colonel Rus...Hal.


Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.


Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list. Forward or send to every gun owner you know...Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America. Jan. 5, 2008. Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):


Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

* M1 Carbine,
* Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
* AR-15,
* Bushmaster XM15,
* Armalite M15,
* AR-10,
* Thompson 1927,
* Thompson M1;
* AK,
* AKM,
* AKS,
* AK-47,
* AK-74,
* ARM,
* MAK90,
* NHM 90,
* NHM 91,
* SA 85,
* SA 93,
* VEPR;
* Olympic Arms PCR;
* AR70,
* Calico Liberty ,
* Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
* Fabrique National FN/FAL,
* FN/LAR, or FNC,
* Hi-Point20Carbine,
* HK-91,
* HK-93,
* HK-94,
* HK-PSG-1,
* Thompson 1927 Commando,
* Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
* Saiga,
* SAR-8,
* SAR-4800,
* SKS with detachable magazine,
* SLG 95,
* SLR 95 or 96,
* Steyr AU,
* Tavor,
* Uzi,
* Galil and Uzi Sporter,
* Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

* Calico M-110,
* MAC-10,
* MAC-11, or MPA3,
* Olympic Arms OA,
* TEC-9,
* TEC-DC9,
* TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
* Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

* Armscor 30 BG,
* SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
* Striker 12,
* Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.


Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm


Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
 
This has been floating around for months and every time someone posts it it is shown to be false.

Not that I wouldn't be buying up many of those guns if I had the money!
 
I would not panic over this POS. HR 1022 was a Carolyn McCarthy bill that had 67 co-sponsors. McCarthy is widely considered on the fringe of the gun prohibition movement, and he bills on the topic (which is about all she campaigns on) have never received traction. Sixty-seven co-sponsors might seem like a lot, but it is only 15% of the House, and most of those just signed on so they could trumpet that they were fighting against Bush's policies.

Hell, the bill only received (the predictable) seven out of ten Mass congresscritters, so it can't be a universally accepted "gun ban."
 
ive heard of no such list so far

basically the only thing ive heard was that pelosi basically said "not going to pass on my watch" :)


Yeah, you can take that to the bank! Oh, wait....banks going bankrupt!
 
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