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Let me play devil's advocate for a moment.
Why would someone need a license to sell ammo in Mass if one is not selling it as a business?
You can sell personally-owned firearms to another licensed resident as long as you only sell (transfer) no more than four fireams per calendar year in personal sales. The only requirement is that both parties be properly licensed and the transfer is documented to the Commonwealth on a form FA-10. In this circumstance, the seller need not be licensed to sell firearms in the Commonwealth, correct?
Why would the same not apply to ammo? Why would a person who wishes to sell some of his personally owned ammunition be required to obtain a license to sell ammunition if they are not doing it in a commercial manner?
Let me play devil's advocate for a moment.
Why would someone need a license to sell ammo in Mass if one is not selling it as a business?
You can sell personally-owned firearms to another licensed resident as long as you only sell (transfer) no more than four fireams per calendar year in personal sales. The only requirement is that both parties be properly licensed and the transfer is documented to the Commonwealth on a form FA-10. In this circumstance, the seller need not be licensed to sell firearms in the Commonwealth, correct?
Why would the same not apply to ammo? Why would a person who wishes to sell some of his personally owned ammunition be required to obtain a license to sell ammunition if they are not doing it in a commercial manner?
Let me play devil's advocate for a moment.
Why would someone need a license to sell ammo in Mass if one is not selling it as a business?
You can sell personally-owned firearms to another licensed resident as long as you only sell (transfer) no more than four fireams per calendar year in personal sales. The only requirement is that both parties be properly licensed and the transfer is documented to the Commonwealth on a form FA-10. In this circumstance, the seller need not be licensed to sell firearms in the Commonwealth, correct?
Why would the same not apply to ammo? Why would a person who wishes to sell some of his personally owned ammunition be required to obtain a license to sell ammunition if they are not doing it in a commercial manner?
Why would a person who wishes to sell some of his personally owned ammunition be required to obtain a license to sell ammunition if they are not doing it in a commercial manner?
BillB said:I was once told that you can not even include ammo with a firearm sale....but would have to include it "for free"!
Lord knows that I am one who has always tried my best to follow the letter of the law in this silly state even when it didn't make any sense... and that doesn't just apply to firearms and ammo. But I used to get laughed at a lot for being "paranoid" and for not applying "common sense" to the most absurd such cases... even by police officers I sought out for clarification on how to comply with outright contradictory or merely ambiguous or poorly written laws.Because that's the way C. 140 § 122B is written. However, I've never heard of, and I'd be surprised to hear of, any LE wasting their time going after people who are selling small non-commercial quantities of ammo on occasion. Course, this is MA so who knows!
Because that's the way C. 140 § 122B is written. However, I've never heard of, and I'd be surprised to hear of, any LE wasting their time going after people who are selling small non-commercial quantities of ammo on occasion. Course, this is MA so who knows!
If somebody was really interested in prosecuting you for such a "crime", I think the "but the ammo was included 'free'" defense wouldn't be the best foot to put forward.
No person shall sell ammunition in the commonwealth unless duly licensed.
Lord knows that I am one who has always tried my best to follow the letter of the law in this silly state even when it didn't make any sense... and that doesn't just apply to firearms and ammo. But I used to get laughed at a lot for being "paranoid" and for not applying "common sense" to the most absurd such cases... even by police officers I sought out for clarification on how to comply with outright contradictory or merely ambiguous or poorly written laws.
I think that sometimes you've got to step back and honestly ask yourself: Has anyone anywhere in the PRM ever been arrested, convicted or even remotely hassled by a cop on a particular (select one!) fine point of these stupid laws. If the answer turns out to be "Hell, no", it might just be a fact that no one really cares and that one's paranoia on the point in question is all for nothing.
CLMN
So there may be a law for even giving it away?
In fact a Chief once told me that it's against the law to mail (UPS) your gun back to the factory to have work done, and you needed to go through a dealer.
Chapter 140: Section 129C. Application of Sec. 129B; ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition; transfers; report to executive director; exemptions; exhibiting license to carry, etc. on demand
Section 129C. No person, other than a licensed dealer or one who has been issued a license to carry a pistol or revolver or an exempt person as hereinafter described, shall own or possess any firearm, rifle, shotgun or ammunition unless he has been issued a firearm identification card by the licensing authority pursuant to the provisions of section one hundred and twenty-nine B.
No person shall sell, give away, loan or otherwise transfer a rifle or shotgun or ammunition other than (a) by operation of law, or (b) to an exempt person as hereinafter described, or (c) to a licensed dealer, or (d) to a person who displays his firearm identification card, or license to carry a pistol or revolver.
A seller shall, within seven days, report all such transfers to the executive director of the criminal history systems board according to the provisions set forth in section one hundred and twenty-eight A, and in the case of loss, theft or recovery of any firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, a similar report shall be made forthwith to both the executive director of the criminal history systems board and the licensing authority in the city or town where the owner resides. Failure to so report shall be cause for suspension or permanent revocation of such person’s firearm identification card or license to carry firearms, or both, and shall be punished by a fine of not less than $200 nor more than $1,000 for a first offense and by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $5,000 for a second offense.
How, if at all, does this Section play into the equation?
CLMN
How, if at all, does this Section play into the equation?
CLMN
So is there a form to sell a box of ammo to a fellow licensed MA residence?
no[t yet].
How, if at all, does this Section play into the equation?
No, giving it away is not a problem (assuming the person you're giving it to is of proper age and is licensed properly). But telling a judge that something wasn't actually part of a sale, but instead a freebie, when it's apparent you are simply trying to skirt a law would just make him/her grumpy.
JD, probably when you were a toddler or not even born, MA had the old "Blue Laws" from the 1600s still in place. Stores couldn't sell most any goods on Sundays.
You were around in the 1600s?!?!? I do remember as a kid not understanding why the heck you couldn't buy lipstick on Sunday. It was my first, "What is wrong with this state?" moment
I didn't know that you were into wearing lipstick as a kid.