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NH resident, have p&r, how do I legally transport firearms to MA ranges, without fltc
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Post-ban large capacity magazines are a felony in MA even if you have an LTC.
MachineHead
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Not a quick process, but fixes the problem once in hand.
Years ago I got my out of state license to carry as I was also an FFL holder and quite often brought wads of cash to pay distributors. SEVERAL Mass LGS wouldn't sell ammunition as they perceived it illegal. Mind you I held a N.H. LTC, A Mass. LTC, and FFLs for both sale of firearms and manufacture of ammunition. Now obviously these weren't LEO but the PERCEPTION that it was illegal, imprinted. You all can do whatever you want but for me? I'll stay out of Massachusetts.
I wouldn't do any of those things, because those are illegal for me to do in MA.
The law is clear that bringing a low-capacity bolt-action rifle and related ammunition into MA "unloaded and enclosed within a case" without an LTC is legal for non-residents, so the risk of going to court over that is pretty much zero.
Sure, a police officer can make up his own rules and arrest you for anything, but under that scenario there's nothing you can't be arrested for, so all you can do is avoid the state entirely.
I've considered getting a non-resident MA LTC, but that would mean doing two things I try to avoid as much as possible -- giving money to Massachusetts, and spending time there.
I thought [thread=293861]NR-LTC does not allow ammo purchase[/thread]? GOAL says "Purchase of ammunition: even with a MA Non-Resident LTC this is not allowed".
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NR LTC can purchase ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in MA (meaning no ammo, no guns of any sort, no pre-ban large capacity mags) legally. What any dealer does/doesn't do is another matter altogether.
Look no further than the latest fiat from the powers that be. The knowledge of this, overnight, one spread quickly. What about the next declaration? Might you cross the border unknowing and become a felon?
Knob Creek
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Are pre-ban high-cap magazines still illegal for non-residents even if they are attending a shooting match?
allen-1
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I'm a GA resident with a GA weapons permit. I'm headed to CT in a couple weeks, and I've got a CT non-resident permit, (so FOPA lets me bring firearms/ammo with me).
While I'm up there, is there any way that I can legally transport firearms and ammo into Massachusetts to shoot IDPA/USPSA matches?
While I'm up there, is there any way that I can legally transport firearms and ammo into Massachusetts to shoot IDPA/USPSA matches?
Legal ONLY if you possess a NR LTC. Without that LTC, you can't bring any handguns or large capacity long guns into MA either for ANY REASON. The "exception" in MGL C. 140 S. 131G is NON-EXISTENT as no state meets the requirements for that exception to be valid.
Not legally. Done all the time however. If anyone gets caught it will be very painful and expensive and end in Federal PP status as a minimum.
allen-1
NES Member
That's what I thought, but I also thought it was worth asking the question.
Thank you. The risk is low, but the cost is too high. I'll stick to shooting in CT this summer.
Knob Creek
NES Member
Has anyone been prosecuted or convicted while claiming the Competition Exemption?
Not yet to my knowledge. We were all misinterpreting the meaning of the law as written vs. proper grammatical reading for many years. More recently the proper interpretation became known and last I took Glidden's seminar it was properly being told to the chiefs/LOs attending his seminars. So it is only a matter of time before someone gets stopped by a properly educated LEO and ends up in silver bracelets and a felony charge.
45collector
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If you have friends in MA that will be at the same IDPA you want to attend, you can certainly borrow someone's gun to shoot for the match. There's no law saying you can't shoot a gun while in MA.
In fact send me a PM if you'll be on Cape Cod at all this summer!
mothybee
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I believe they changed the interview to once every 6 years for renewal. Still $100 a year. CHA-CHING!
Well, IMHO it all depends on how much of a prick the LEO is Len. I've never heard of someone being denied that as a defense, either. Then again most people that
compete in this state usually take care to not be noticed and not attract attention.
There's also the issue of whether or not a given DA cares about the "Guida Interpretation" or not. (I'm guessing this is what you're talking about).
-Mike
I was told by the Mass. State police several years ago, perhaps 15 or so years, that I could attend matches but had to only stay the day. If I tried to stay over I would be breaking the law. My fix was to not attend any more Mass matches. At the time there were NRA Hunter Pistol Silhouette matches being held in Palmer monthly. I had a Mass. CC license when living there but after I moved it was too expensive to keep up.
If you have friends in MA that will be at the same IDPA you want to attend, you can certainly borrow someone's gun to shoot for the match. There's no law saying you can't shoot a gun while in MA.
In fact send me a PM if you'll be on Cape Cod at all this summer!
Good point. I've done that for a friend in NH. You can also meet them at the border if convenient.
When I have NRs who take my NRA Personal Protection classes, I explain the law and then offer them free use of my handguns for the class. If they choose to bring in their own guns in spite of the law, I don't care, the risk is on them.
Cops will tell you a lot of things. Don’t assume that they know what they are talking about.
allen-1
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If you have friends in MA that will be at the same IDPA you want to attend, you can certainly borrow someone's gun to shoot for the match. There's no law saying you can't shoot a gun while in MA.
In fact send me a PM if you'll be on Cape Cod at all this summer!
I currently have no plans to be on the Cape this summer, but I'll keep your offer in mind. Thank you very much.
fshalor
NES Member
Don't you mean in 6-8 months?
45collector
NES Member
Right on.
MachineHead
NES Member
Yes. But non residents should take comfort in knowing that they are applying for the nation’s shortest lasting LTC. /s
Well f***, I point people to GOAL'S website all the time.
45collector
NES Member
A lot of their info is correct. But at the same time there is a lot of info missing, or slightly confusing. Then again it is MA law, and there aren't many people at all who fully understand it.
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