A good guy had a 14.5” model FS on the forums not too long ago. It sold that’s for darn sure. So the free state models are definitely around.
There’s 2 or 3 of them (14.5”) for sale on Armslist also in MA, but they’re all asking 1K each. lmao GTFO.
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A good guy had a 14.5” model FS on the forums not too long ago. It sold that’s for darn sure. So the free state models are definitely around.
Yeah it has the “niche” item effect like Uzis do with the cool factor...jacks up the price like crazy.There’s 2 or 3 of them (14.5”) for sale on Armslist also in MA, but they’re all asking 1K each. lmao GTFO.
Yeah it has the “niche” item effect like Uzis do with the cool factor...jacks up the price like crazy.
Both points are spot on. The 590A1 is actually useful. The Uzi and Shockwave are just two guns to add to the list of bad motherloving guns I want but don’t actually need. Speaking of that...I had a badass Model 1887 T-Series reproduction I 100% didn’t need on my Gunbroker watchlist that got popped without them even notifying me. Sad!Completely different animals for many reasons.
Regardless, I’d rather spend 700.00 on a 590A1 and have it actually be useful.
Completely different animals for many reasons.
Regardless, I’d rather spend 700.00 on a 590A1 and have it actually be useful.
ETA: for that matter, even spending 350.00-400.00 on a regular 500 is money much better spent.
100%Pistol grip shotguns are stupid, shockwave included. Not to say that I don't have a pistol grip shotty buried in one of my safes somewhere but it's nothing but a toy.
I know a guy that did it as a hobby. Refurb a few old gun shop bargain rack scatterguns in his home workshop and flip them for pocket money for his other hobby: fishing. Had to be careful, though, since he did not have a FFL. Did a few a year only.Also if one is patient you can find deals with "Trash can shotguns". Find a gun shop that has a shitload of used
long guns. Every once in awhile you will find something like a 500 ATP etc buried amongst the poo etc for short
money. Old school rem 870s can be had for shot money too, back when they dint make them like doo doo. The
one shotgun I own is an older (well, by my standards) rem 870 18", great looking gun (blued, real wood furniture) only cost me like
$200 at the time.
-Mike
I like Mossberg and I don't mind a pistol grip, but I don't like a pistol grip with a safety on the top of the receiver.Pistol grip shotguns are stupid, shockwave included. Not to say that I don't have a pistol grip shotty buried in one of my safes somewhere but it's nothing but a toy.
Try the Mossberg 590A1 with the Knoxx recoil reducing pistol grip. That's what I use on my 590A1 Mariner. I think my 2/5", .454, Ruger Alaskan recoils more than the Mariner, with the Knoxx pistol grip.I have used the shockwave with the 14" barrel. Not NEARLY as bad as I thought it would be. I mean its a CQB weapon, you aint going to hunt with it. Most of our homes have maybe 30" of open distance so 10 yards. It's not hard to control, is it easy?... no.
I think the 18.5" is stupid takes away from the concept. But thats all we can get in MA.
Remember all the people on here telling you it sucks either don't shoot often or are too old to handle it
Would a "Shockwave" non-NFA build still run afoul of Massachusett's "sawed off shotgun" law? That is MGL C269 S10 + MGL C140 S121:those of you who really want a shockwave or an SBS in MA have options that will not cost much more that MSRP of a free state guns
Note that this is subtly different from Federal law, but a weapon which never had an 18"+ barrel on it would not fit either definition.C140S120 said:“Sawed-off shotgun”, any weapon made from a shotgun, whether by alteration, modification or otherwise, if such weapon as modified has one or more barrels less than 18 inches in length or as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches
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''Shotgun'', a weapon having a smooth bore with a barrel length equal to or greater than 18 inches with an overall length equal to or greater than 26 inches, and capable of discharging a shot or bullet for each pull of the trigger.
Paul Harrell did two videos on mini shells and I wouldn't want to use them based on what he portrayed. I have also seen them used in 3-gun and I see them function like crap.
A good guy had a 14.5” model FS on the forums not too long ago. It sold that’s for darn sure. So the free state models are definitely around.
He also used to shoot in competitions and is experienced.
I can own anything I want, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would ever want to own one of those rigs.I think the animosity towards the Shockwave, is mostly fed by envy, of the PRM residents...THAT CANNOT OWN ONE!
I think the animosity towards the Shockwave, is mostly fed by envy, of the PRM residents...THAT CANNOT OWN ONE!
Would a "Shockwave" non-NFA build still run afoul of Massachusett's "sawed off shotgun" law? That is MGL C269 S10 + MGL C140 S121:
Note that this is subtly different from Federal law, but a weapon which never had an 18"+ barrel on it would not fit either definition.
In. Great karma. Thank you!SHOT saw announcement of about a half dozen new shorty models, including braced, mag-fed, and semi-auto.
How does a non-NFA Black Aces with 10" barrel sound?
That's what I want for riding shotgun.