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Mossberg Shockwave
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KBCraig
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(Shhhhhh!.... but yes, same for an SBR, which can be carried loaded in NH cars, because it's a "pistol". )
Rocky Mosasaurus
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Yeah it has the “niche” item effect like Uzis do with the cool factor...jacks up the price like crazy.
Completely different animals for many reasons.
Regardless, I’d rather spend 700.00 on a 590A1 and have it actually be useful.
ETA: for that matter, even spending 350.00-400.00 on a regular 500 is money much better spent.
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Rocky Mosasaurus
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Both points are spot on. The 590A1 is actually useful. The Uzi and Shockwave are just two guns to add to the list of bad motherloving guns I want but don’t actually need. Speaking of that...I had a badass Model 1887 T-Series reproduction I 100% didn’t need on my Gunbroker watchlist that got popped without them even notifying me. Sad!
Also if one is patient you can find deals with "Trash can shotguns". Find a gun shop that has a shitload of used
long guns. Every once in awhile you will find something like a 500 ATP etc buried amongst the poo etc for short
money. Old school rem 870s can be had for shot money too, back when they dint make them like doo doo. The
one shotgun I own is an older (well, by my standards) rem 870 18", great looking gun (blued, real wood furniture) only cost me like
$200 at the time.
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Cap'n Mike
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Getting a hold of one of the 14 inch Shockwaves in Mass is one of the few ways you can form 1 a short barrel shotgun in Mass.
if you want the 18.5 version, buy a used mossberg 500 like has been suggested and put the birdshead grip on yourself.
The grip is like $20
if you want the 18.5 version, buy a used mossberg 500 like has been suggested and put the birdshead grip on yourself.
The grip is like $20
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I know a guy that did it as a hobby. Refurb a few old gun shop bargain rack scatterguns in his home workshop and flip them for pocket money for his other hobby: fishing. Had to be careful, though, since he did not have a FFL. Did a few a year only.
Wickedcoolname
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I like Mossberg and I don't mind a pistol grip, but I don't like a pistol grip with a safety on the top of the receiver.
The only useful situation for a pistol grip shotgun I think would be inside a structure at hip-fire range - all the reviews I see on them at some point start doing other things that get stupid really fast.
In terms of stopping power and safety, ie one shot drop and not going through walls and into a neighbor's house, a shotgun is kinda ideal.
Cutting the length down to that 14.5 makes a shockwave more useful inside if you ask me. The problem with shotguns generally is even a min length home defense model is just a massive firearm.
Outside of that I agree, not useful.
In terms of stopping power and safety, ie one shot drop and not going through walls and into a neighbor's house, a shotgun is kinda ideal.
Cutting the length down to that 14.5 makes a shockwave more useful inside if you ask me. The problem with shotguns generally is even a min length home defense model is just a massive firearm.
Outside of that I agree, not useful.
Cap
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Or if you prefer semi-auto, could build up a TAC13-SBA?
13" barrel, Pistol grip, 5 round capacity, Versaport gas system.
Biggest downside is it relies on an superfluous "buffer tube" to make minimum OAL, would be the first to go if the ATF changes their mind again. That, and unobtainium in ban states.
13" barrel, Pistol grip, 5 round capacity, Versaport gas system.
Biggest downside is it relies on an superfluous "buffer tube" to make minimum OAL, would be the first to go if the ATF changes their mind again. That, and unobtainium in ban states.
M60
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Try the Mossberg 590A1 with the Knoxx recoil reducing pistol grip. That's what I use on my 590A1 Mariner. I think my 2/5", .454, Ruger Alaskan recoils more than the Mariner, with the Knoxx pistol grip.I have used the shockwave with the 14" barrel. Not NEARLY as bad as I thought it would be. I mean its a CQB weapon, you aint going to hunt with it. Most of our homes have maybe 30" of open distance so 10 yards. It's not hard to control, is it easy?... no.
I think the 18.5" is stupid takes away from the concept. But thats all we can get in MA.
Remember all the people on here telling you it sucks either don't shoot often or are too old to handle it
Would a "Shockwave" non-NFA build still run afoul of Massachusett's "sawed off shotgun" law? That is MGL C269 S10 + MGL C140 S121:
Note that this is subtly different from Federal law, but a weapon which never had an 18"+ barrel on it would not fit either definition.C140S120 said:
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Their good training rounds or just shooting for fun without getting beat up.
seanc
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that may be the one I picked up in a trade.. I looked for 9me of these for over a year before I found it In mass.
so fwiw.. my take on it, and for reference I have an Ithaca stakeout (aow) with a 14” bbl too.
both are well made and fun..
what I would say though. On standard 2-3/4 shells they are both miserable and no fun to shoot. But the birds head makes a big difference and makes it substantially less miserable.
but, once you add the mini shells the shockwave becomes a Really fun gun to shoot. And it is about 200% more accurate than a mini 14!
I can own anything I want, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would ever want to own one of those rigs.I think the animosity towards the Shockwave, is mostly fed by envy, of the PRM residents...THAT CANNOT OWN ONE!
Unless I could get one cheap and flip it for an insane profit to some sap who absolutely has to have one
slap shot
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I think the animosity towards the Shockwave, is mostly fed by envy, of the PRM residents...THAT CANNOT OWN ONE!
the not being able to have can turn the most gun happy person into Mr Reasonable...
SHOT saw announcement of about a half dozen new shorty models, including braced, mag-fed, and semi-auto.
How does a non-NFA Black Aces with 10" barrel sound?
That's what I want for riding shotgun.
How does a non-NFA Black Aces with 10" barrel sound?
That's what I want for riding shotgun.
No, because you are not making it from a shotgun, or altering a shot gun...A shockwave is classified as an other, Or a firearm or pistol I believe in MA... This is why it is important to have a receiver, that is Virgin, or has never had a stock or barrel over 18" installed on it....
In. Great karma. Thank you!SHOT saw announcement of about a half dozen new shorty models, including braced, mag-fed, and semi-auto.
How does a non-NFA Black Aces with 10" barrel sound?
That's what I want for riding shotgun.
