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Mass laws on making AKs/WASR-10s
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All AKs are banned in MA by name. You can’t make a post-ban compliant AK build. Only way you can own an AK in MA is if it’s preban, and if it’s preban you can have all of the enumerated features you want (collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.). https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section121
“‘Assault weapon’, shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, and shall include, but not be limited to, any of the weapons, or copies or duplicates of the weapons, of any caliber, known as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models)”
I’m not too familiar with the specifics of the dealer license but this is what I was able to find. The below information is from the Mass.gov website. (Information for firearms dealers):
Firearms dealer business location requirements
Massachusetts law requires that all firearms dealers maintain a place of business that is not a residence or dwelling where they must conduct all transactions and keep all their records.Case law further determines that the residence or dwelling be a building that is not at the same address as the residence of the dealer, and in a commercial setting.
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You forgot personal transfers
A personal transfer wouldn’t change the fact that possession of an assault weapon is still illegal. Doesn’t matter how you came into possession of it. https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131M
“No person shall sell, offer for sale, transfer or possess an assault weapon…”
That wasn’t what I was debating though. My original post said that the only way you can own an AK is if it’s preban. Obviously if it was made before 9/13/1994 then once can assume it was lawfully possess on the ban date and it can be acquired via personal transfer. I was referring to a post-ban AK build. Which is why I said:
“You can’t make a post-ban compliant AK build. Only way you can own an AK in MA is if it’s preban”
Not true.
Post 94 nuetered AKs are perfectly legal in mass.
Unless of course you believe in maura's press conference bullshit. Those guns were sold in MA constantly right up until 7/20/16. (Some still move today too, but not quite as many because too much drama whining etc)
Where in MGL does it say that post-ban neutered AKs are legal in MA? I’m also not talking about the 2016 enforcement notice, I’m talking about the actual MGL which I linked to in my original post.
It doesn’t say they’re illegal. Let’s put it this way for a long ass time. Most gun shops in mass would gladly sell you one of those guns with no problem. If you’re going to suggest they were all wrong, you have fun with that. Most people can’t read the original AWB properly.
You can own colt A.R.’s in mass no problem as well. Hell Colt used to make neutered ones during the ban to fulfill the federal awb requirements, and the mass ban is an exact duplicate of the federal one……. you really need to do some more research before posting about the law dude.
The MA AWB is an almost verbatim copy of that AWB, not an exact copy. There’s one small but important difference between the two. The Federal AWB says, “Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (AKs) (all models).” The MA AWB just says, “Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models).”
This difference means that you can’t make a post-ban evil feature compliant AK in MA, but back in the day during the old federal AWB that was fine as long as it wasn’t a Norinco, Mitchell or Poly Tech.
wow some subtle trolling and actual creative use of an alt. im impressed. But unfortunately for OP nobody is taking the bait.
i think if you made this a gun store/range fudd story you'd get 1000 replies, a lock, and at least 2 members banned
i think if you made this a gun store/range fudd story you'd get 1000 replies, a lock, and at least 2 members banned
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Dude. Do you have any idea how many new AWB compliant ARs/AKs have been sold by MA dealers since 1994? A LOT.
It died down a little bit after the 2016 bullshit but some dealers were/are still selling them.
You said the only way to own an AK in Massachusetts is by having it be a pre-ban, that’s not the only way. You can do a personal transfer of a compliant rifle.
You probably could get one from a dealer too
That dude goes heavy on the law with very loose posts….he’s gotta be a plant
richc
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@Joeldiaz , idle curiosity.
Are you a lawyer? Or do you work in law enforcement?
I think you're defining all AR's or AK's as Assault Weapons. There is a legal definition in the AWB.
While the AWB was federal law one could buy as many AR-15's and AK-47's as you wished. They just had to comply with the features ban, including things like a bayonet lug, flash hider, folding/telescoping stock and more. An AR/AK without those features was not considered an assault weapon... by law.
They were sold by the most careful of FFL's in MA. There was no ban on compliant rifles.
Are you a lawyer? Or do you work in law enforcement?
I think you're defining all AR's or AK's as Assault Weapons. There is a legal definition in the AWB.
While the AWB was federal law one could buy as many AR-15's and AK-47's as you wished. They just had to comply with the features ban, including things like a bayonet lug, flash hider, folding/telescoping stock and more. An AR/AK without those features was not considered an assault weapon... by law.
They were sold by the most careful of FFL's in MA. There was no ban on compliant rifles.
Facts, as long as its Mass compliant with its features, they cannot be classified as assault weapons. Thanks for clearing this up dude, had a feeling that other guy’s interpretation of the law regarding the AWB was incorrect
Ok, so if I apply for just the gunsmithing section on the state dealers license application, this would still make one exempt?
Like if someone were to just check the second option here for license application type
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