Just read the other thread on bow season extension in MA. If I use a muzzleloader, are 100% copper bullets prohibited? Sounds like they have to be lead rounds. Actually, sounds like copper jacketed rounds might be questionable as well.
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Where are you reading that?Just read the other thread on bow season extension in MA. If I use a muzzleloader, are 100% copper bullets prohibited? Sounds like they have to be lead rounds. Actually, sounds like copper jacketed rounds might be questionable as well.
This^Where are you reading that?
Provide a link to where your reading this and we will take a look. I'm not sure where your reading that but I've been hunting muzzle loader for deer with copper jacketed hollow points for years.Just read the other thread on bow season extension in MA. If I use a muzzleloader, are 100% copper bullets prohibited? Sounds like they have to be lead rounds. Actually, sounds like copper jacketed rounds might be questionable as well.
This is copy paste from the current mass f and g website on primitive fore arms deer season. That copy paste you posted is either another state or VERY old. The primitive season used to be lead ball only but that was a long time ago. Here's the current reg......In section “3” below it says “a single lead projectile”. I pulled this from the other recent thread on Archery Season extension. I’ve heard negative reviews on the shockwaves I usually used and got some all copper Barnes with great reviews.
321 CMR 3.02(4) Hunting and Tagging of Deer
(b) Open Season. The open season shall be in five periods as follows:
1. Beginning the lastMonday in October and ending the following Saturday, any three days of which may be selected by the Director, there shall be a special season for paraplegics exclusively, who may hunt deer by means of a shotgun not larger than ten gauge, including shotgunswith a rifled bore, bymeans of a muzzle-loading firearm, fired from the shoulder, .44 to .775 caliber, or by means of a bow and arrow. Such hunting shall be limited to those specified areas designated by the Director. During this special season, nothing shall prevent the otherwise lawful hunting of birds and mammals in accordance with established statutes and regulations.
a. In zones 1-9, beginning on the sixth Monday prior to Thanksgiving and ending on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, all days inclusive, there shall be a special season for archers exclusively and during this period deer may be hunted only bymeans of a bow and arrow. In zones 10-14, beginning on the eighth Monday prior to Thanksgiving and ending on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, all days inclusive, except on the tribal lands of the Wampanoag Tribe of Gay Head in the Town of Aquinnah in Dukes County, there shall be a special season for archers exclusively and during this period deer may be hunted only by means of a bow and arrow.
b. Beginning on the thirdMondayprior to the firstMondayinNovember and ending
on the last dayof the primitive firearms season as specified in 321 CMR3.02(4)(b)4., all days inclusive, and only on the tribal lands of theWampanoag Tribe of GayHead in the town of Aquinnah in Dukes County, there shall be a special season for archers. During this period, deer may be hunted only bymeans of a bow and arrow, provided that during the shotgun deer season for Zone 13 as provided for in 321 CMR 3.02(4)(b)3., and during the primitive firearms season as provided for in 321 CMR 3.02(4)(b)4., deer may also be hunted with such firearms as are specified for those seasons.
2. Beginning the first Monday after Thanksgiving and ending the second Saturday thereafter, all days inclusive except Sunday, deer may be hunted throughout Massachusetts bymeans of a shotgun not larger than ten gauge, including shotguns with a rifled bore, bymeans of a muzzle-loading firearm, fired from the shoulder, .44 to .775 caliber, or by means of a bow and arrow.
3. The primitive firearms period of the open season is intended to provide an opportunity to hunt deer in a manner similar to the way our forefathers hunted in the mid-1800's. The primary consideration is to limit the weapons to a type similar to those in common use during that period of history. Basically, thatmeans a single shot, muzzle- loading firearm with limited range and firepower. Secondarily, the hunter participating in this season should have a relative degree of solitude significantly different from the hunting pressure which is characteristic of the shotgun deer season.
Beginning the third Monday after Thanksgiving and ending on December 31st, all days inclusive, deer may be hunted only bymeans of a primitive firearm using a single lead projectile, or bymeans of a bow and arrow. Black powder (or synthetic substances such as "pyrodex" which are approved for competitive muzzle-loading meets by the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association) is the only powder to be used during this season. Primitive firearms may have smooth or rifled bores and shall not contain more than one usable barrel. In the case of primitive firearms with double bore barrels, one barrel shall be made inoperative by removal of the nipple and hammer. The caliber of a primitive firearmshall be not less than .44 normore than .775 and onlythose primitive firearms having a barrel length of 18 inches or longer shall be permitted.
That definitely clears things up.Lead projectile includes sabot rounds
I've taken more deer during muzzle loader season than shotgun season in mass over the years. The modern in lines are accurate as hell. Just have to remember you only have one chance on a shot and make it a good one. There is alot to get used too in working up a load and projectile that is accurate for your rifle but it is all part of the satisfaction.Excellent. Hopefully have a chance to try these out this year.
Oh boy.Need recommendations for muzzle loader. It will be my next purchase. Thanks
Oh boy.
Thompson center. I have 2 of the IMPACT! Model rifles. They can be found on sale for under about $200. Simple. Accurate. We'll made. Son and I had a banner season last fall thanks to those two rifles.
Or condom"He was lookin for a Hawkin gun, 50 caliber or better."
For waterproofing, put a balloon over the muzzle & beeswax from a toilet bowl ring between the firelock & barrel, & around the frizzen/pan
The muzzle covers are a good idea if it's going to rain. However.....I'd still change my load before hunting again. The outside to inside temp change is what I think caused the powder problem in my buddies gun.....4 hunts with it and it never rained on us. Powder didn't go off like I said.....but when he pulled the breach......pasty mush came out instead of two clean 777 pellets. Condensation is a bitch! I put in a fresh powder and projo each trip.I've covered the muzzle with a finger off of a rubber glove, during heavy rain. Never a misfire, using 209 primer & 777 pellets behind a sabot. Never a deer with it yet either though.
Six Age-Old Muzzleloader Rules Put to the Test
Lubed and ribbed for her pleasure?Or condom
Lubed and ribbed for her pleasure?
As does the length of the barrel.Twist rate matters.
Bob
I have the 2 impact models and needed a third for the wife. Picked up an Omega used at ktp a couple months ago. Real nice looking gun and shot nice tight groups the ome time I took it out to test it so far. I'll work up a load for it closer to the season. My only complaint so far......I put a scope on it and it really gets in the way when pulling the breach plug out and when putting the primer on. The impacts break like a shotgun and the "dog ear" release mechanism is easy to pull to open it up making priming a breaze even with mittens on. Small complaint and that's my only one on the Omega model.I have a TC Omega Z5 that is accurate as hell. Been happy with that. TC seems to cover the price spectrum and most seem happy with their products.