Shotguns are a whole other ball of wax, potentially.... but if you take a strict reading of the law, since an SBR doesn't meet MA's definition of a rifle, it better fits "firearm".
-Mike
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MA AWB Question regarding "AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE"
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Shotguns are a whole other ball of wax, potentially.... but if you take a strict reading of the law, since an SBR doesn't meet MA's definition of a rifle, it better fits "firearm".
-Mike
Got it, However I still would rather have a loaded pistol in my vehicle than an SBR if I got pulled over.
I think in MA with a LEO that doesn't know the law, an AR pistol and an SBR would be equally as bad, "ZOMG it looks sorta like a rifle and its eeevil and extra killy!" etc. If total risk aversion is the watchword of the day for someone, "None of the above" would be my choice.
-Mike
The state isn't giving you an answer for a reason. The ATF's opinion doesn't mean a thing.
I like that you're thinking outside the box, but the bottom line is this: if you someone wants to make a stink about your AR-pistol (legal or not) they will. I'm not advocating breaking the law, but their hoops are literally impossible to jump through.
The FRB referred me to the ATF and stated that what they have to say in the matter goes. So when I get info back from the ATF I will get the FRB to sign off on it and ill be good.
At that point if some db leo wants to put up a stink, I will have the paperwork to tell them to **** themselves.
At that point if some db leo wants to put up a stink, I will have the paperwork to tell them to **** themselves.
You'll never receive any signed off documentation from FRB stating that something is legal. They just won't do it.
But if you prove me wrong, I'd like to see you post the letter (PDF) up here for everyone's benefit.
But if you prove me wrong, I'd like to see you post the letter (PDF) up here for everyone's benefit.
The FRB is sending you on a wild goose chase.
The ATF has no say on the legality of an AR pistol in MA. So even if you are able to obtain a letter from the ATF, it will hold no weight in MA. The FRB will not and does not give firearms related legal opinions. Think of what the 'R' stands for. That's what they do.
I hope you are able to get it though and I would love to see a state agency maintain a position on their retarded laws.
The ATF has no say on the legality of an AR pistol in MA. So even if you are able to obtain a letter from the ATF, it will hold no weight in MA. The FRB will not and does not give firearms related legal opinions. Think of what the 'R' stands for. That's what they do.
I hope you are able to get it though and I would love to see a state agency maintain a position on their retarded laws.
There isn't any one particular entity in MA. EOPS might say something but its not legally binding. The AG won't say a ****ing thing to you, her office has a "feed them shit and keep them in the dark" policy on gun issues, so you'll only ever get a shitty form letter back from the AG's office that basically says that.
So in other words, "good luck with that".
-Mike
So in other words, "good luck with that".
-Mike
It should be the AG's office but they won't tell you a GD thing.
Well, EOPS CLAIMS to be, even though they don't have the legal authority to do so. And their very vehement current claim is far-reaching, adding words to MGL ("in Massachusetts") that aren't there and sticking by their claims that not only do so-called AWs AND hi-cap mags have to have been IN MASSACHUSETTS ON 9/13/1994 (note: not before, but actually present in-state ON that date), but further that their transfer at any time to anybody is totally illegal! [See FRB memo (which I now know was endorsed/motivated by EOPS Legal Dept) that is unsigned/undated, posted on GOAL website.]
No, I would not ask their opinion on anything to do with MGL. They seem to have forgotten their role in gov't and hell-bent on "making law" to suit their agenda.
Not only this, but I recently learned that apparently even city/town gov't entities can't get a ruling on anything gun-related out of the AG's office. Allegedly any such request won't be honored unless made by another state agency.
I decided that welding was a dumb idea. I finally got the letter out requesting BATFE paperwork on their definition of stuff regarding AR pistols and "detachable" magazines. Once I get that back I will be taking it to the state as they said that they follow the BATFE definitions.
As gay as it is, I will be putting a bullet button on it as that complies with the Federal definition of a non-detachable magazine.
I know this is not a solution to the MA shit!
As gay as it is, I will be putting a bullet button on it as that complies with the Federal definition of a non-detachable magazine.
I know this is not a solution to the MA shit!
dcmdon
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Interesting. Well, I guess I learned something.
