bulk,,,,aint much of that round here SE MASS
1000+ .308 FMJBT bullets
8lb jugs of powder----Varget,IMR4895/H4895, N-140
primers----
Of course there isn't much bulk around here. One answer for that, Shipping. Dealers pay by the pound on bullets and powder! Then customers come in and say, "That's expensive! Can't you match 4S's or Dick's?" He'll no. They have the money to buy by the pallet. Us small shops can't afford to do that.
Why not talk with Adam (Acme Armament) and Carl (Four Seasons) to see if a large group buy (pre-paid, specific items/quantities) can be setup for reloading supplies. Since shipping and Hazmat fees can be a killer even if someone does/would ship to MA, this might work out equal or even better price-wise even including the sales tax.
I know that Carl has a LOT MORE powder than what you see in the store. His Fire Chief won't let him have more than a small quantity of powder on display in the store at a time.
As Len has said. If you folks want to put together a group buy, I will see what I can do to get it at the lowest price. I have a wholesaler out west that will be happy to ship large quantities, but it must be just that. 10k+ bullets, 50k+ primers/type, etc.
cstockwell, you made my point. With SHIPPING AND HAZMAT you still saved 8.50 per thousand saveing almost 60.00. How can joe retailer purchase for less than a shop.
Because the large country wide retailer can buy the reloading supplies in such a large quantity, that the Joe retailer can't even start to match those prices and still be able to make a few dollars.
I feel as if they just purchase from midway or other retailer for what we can pay and just tack on to make a buck----Are there not whole sale suppliers they can get these things from....such as JSC wholesale, Camfours ect ect.
Actually John, there are several to get these supplies from. You want to come and spend a morning searching wholesalers inventory to find not only what is in stock but also trying to find the lowest price? Yes, it would take you an entire morning. Ask Nicole the next time you are at Acme on how long it takes to find these things and place an order.
By the way, most wholesalers will beat Midway's price usually. If they don't, you would have to convince Midway or others to ship into MA.
Before EGE went out of business he was getting me anything I wanted JSC was delivering to his door sometimes 2 time a week. Ernie was just a small guy. He always showed me what he paid, most items he sold me ran about 35% over cost and still beat almost anyone....yes his over head was low
John, I have the same mark up on ammo and accesories! The small dealers have to, so they can keep pace with 4S, DSG, BPS. A customer buying one 8 pound can of powder, not only now will cost the dealer $25 for HAZMAT but will also incur the shipping cost per pound for that item.
With the cost of reloading I go with the cheapest place. I will not support a local business that rapes me!
Thank you for supporting your local small business. You and people like you are why there are only 120 or so dealers in Mass.! Go ahead, keep it up and more of us will leave and people like John, mac1911, will be the ones who suffer.
For everyone's info: Before you go harping on the MA dealers who carry reloading supplies in ANY quantity, go look at the MA Fire Marshall regulations and permit fees regarding the quantity of each. Take into account the specific storage requirements of these items. Then add the fees and costs to keep them on hand before you come down on the small shops who can't compete with the mega-FFL dealers.