Is the semi auto mag fed shotgun legal in MA?

[hminsky]

AR-12 Semi Auto, AR-15 Style 12GA Shotgun by Panzer Arms of Turkey, 3" Chambers

I saw an ad for a mag fed semi auto shotgun, and was wondering if it is legal in MA? I haven't paid much attention to shotguns for the last decade, I just have a pump Remington. I remember there was some limitation about semi auto mag fed shotguns, but I don't remember what it was.

 

[Boris]

no, too many evil features, hi cap mag and pistol grip or something like that.

 

[Len-2A Training]

AWB applies to shotguns as well as rifles. Mags can't hold more than 5 rds for the shotgun mag to be legal (unless pre-ban).

 

[hminsky]

So 5 rd mags and a pinned stock would be ok?

 

[sigfanboy13]

So 5 rd mags and a pinned stock would be ok?

Need to lose the pistol grip as well

 

[Blackmore]

A Saiga 12 with a straight stock and 5 rounds of 000 buckshot (8 x .36" balls per shot) can solve a lot of problems.

 

[RImike]

Great price point, to bad this months disposable income went towards a home heating oil fill-up.

 

[ILikeGlocks]

https://gartmanarmsco.com/inventory?olsPage=products/lcki-omega-ar12

 

[Golddiggie]

Interesting. Are there larger capacity mags available?? For those of us in free states.

 

[kevin9]

Here's the quote from GOAL as to what constitutes an AW shotgun:

a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--"

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'“

So unlike semi-auto rifles, the detachable mag is part of "the count", therefore, as has been pointed out, one has to both pin the stock and remove the pistol grip (or "permanently" affix the magazine) to make that interesting shotgun AWB compliant.

 

[RImike]

Interesting. Are there larger capacity mags available?? For those of us in free states.

10 Rounds are all I can find that are readily available and from what I can tell, they work on this platform and the MKA1919 platform.

 

[Tim_McD]

https://gartmanarmsco.com/inventory?olsPage=products/lcki-omega-ar12

such an irrational want.....

 

[PaulR]

such a WANT!.....

fixed it for you.

 

[Rockrivr1]

What's the "official" word in MA with a thumbhole stock. Not really a pistol grip per say.

 

[Boris]

What's the "official" word in MA with a thumbhole stock. Not really a pistol grip per say.

I believe it's legit, but what good is that if our DAs can't read.

 

[edhead35]

Here's the quote from GOAL as to what constitutes an AW shotgun:

So unlike semi-auto rifles, the detachable mag is part of "the count", therefore, as has been pointed out, one has to both pin the stock and remove the pistol grip (or "permanently" affix the magazine) to make that interesting shotgun AWB compliant.

Sorry to resurrect... But I had a question. So a saiga 12 with 5 Rd mags, a fixed no pistol grip stock, and detachable mag is OK, but the question is, does it need to have a muzzle device pinned and welded or can it have a screw on thread protector not otherwise welded and pinned?

 

[Ultimate]

Sorry to resurrect... But I had a question. So a saiga 12 with 5 Rd mags, a fixed no pistol grip stock, and detachable mag is OK, but the question is, does it need to have a muzzle device pinned and welded or can it have a screw on thread protector not otherwise welded and pinned?

Shotguns:
(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.

MA Assault Weapons Ban "AWB" FAQ

Background: What is the MA AWB? The "Assault Weapons" ban in MA is almost a verbatim version of the Federal AWB that existed from 1994 - 2004. This is how it is currently encoded in MA law: http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section121 The "Assault...

www.northeastshooters.com

Shotgun AWB definition is different than Rifle AWB definition in that the detachable magazine is a prerequisite for rifles but an evil feature on shotguns.

 

[Mesatchornug]

Sorry to resurrect... But I had a question. So a saiga 12 with 5 Rd mags, a fixed no pistol grip stock, and detachable mag is OK, but the question is, does it need to have a muzzle device pinned and welded or can it have a screw on thread protector not otherwise welded and pinned?

In addition to the above, threaded barrels are not included in the evil features list for shotguns, probably precisely because chokes are so common/important on them.

 

[John2006]

Resurrecting this thread as I just stumbled on this for $499. Has some great reviews. Anyone with any experience? Without the super killy pistol grip I’m thinking this is MA compliant (for now)…

https://palmettostatearmory.com/panzer-m4-tactical-12-gauge-18-5-4rd-shotgun-walnut-disruptive-grey-pam4tsdgnws.html

 

[DW357]

Resurrecting this thread as I just stumbled on this for $499. Has some great reviews. Anyone with any experience? Without the super killy pistol grip I’m thinking this is MA compliant (for now)…

https://palmettostatearmory.com/panzer-m4-tactical-12-gauge-18-5-4rd-shotgun-walnut-disruptive-grey-pam4tsdgnws.html

Semi auto 4 round shotgun…yeah that’s perfectly fine in MA