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If this is true, its not good

ateamrob

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I just heard from a very good friend of mine who is very savvy to the gun laws and a 2nd Amendment buff as well.

He told me that obama already has some of his people over in Australia to find out how they implemented their gun confiscation program and how they made it run so smoothly.

I guess if this topic has come up here I must have missed it. If this is true it could mean if elected may be one of his agendas. I know obama is not a friend to the gun owner by any means and I know he will do what he can to take away our rights but I guess I never entertained the thought of him heading up a gun confiscation program here in the US.

what do you guys think? Have you heard this rumor?
 
Never heard this...and I don't really see it happening. I think that something like that, more so after this last ruling, would be political suicide.

While we're not as strong as we would like...there's too many gun owners in the US that wouldn't let this happen. More so, the NRA would have been all over this and I think would have sent out updates. Just like they did with Deval's raising the price of permits.
 
Urban legend

That doesn't make any sense at all. There are estimates of 60 to 80 million guns in the U.S. and if they tried to confiscate them all (oh, except those held by the criminals of course) there'd be a second revolution.
 
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Yeah I hope you guys are right.

I never heard of this before either which is why when he told me this I almost fell down. I could not believe it.

I also dont see it happening but my biggest fear is that if something like this was introduced or ever to ever happen in the US (certainly not us on this site) but lots of gun owning Americans would act like sheep and just comply to stay out of hot water. The same reason why certain gun owning Americans will vote for obomhim because the 2nd Amendment is not the first priority on their minds.

But boy I hope this is not that jerks intent.

how was it said before..... "off my cold dead hands...." [grin]
 
I would ask your friend to substantiate the rumor.

Obama is clearly no friend of ours. But there is no way he would try something like that.
 
Obama could have 100 people in Australia....he can't just throw 2A out the window (as much as he would like to).
 
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I just heard from a very good friend

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look guys, I am not trying to stir the pot or anything. When I say a good friend I am being serious. He is an EXCELLENT friend and its not like him to have "diarrea of the mouth on stuff like this." I am just asking if anyone else has heard of this RUMOR..... going off of the responces I see that it clearly may be just rumor and frankly, that is how I expected and hoped it to be.

I posted this here because you guys are the 1st place I go to read up on up to date info because you guys are sharp on this.
I have no intentions of starting a thread on crap but I have to be honest, when I heard this it concerned me and I wanted to go to the best source out there to get feedback.

I am glad no one here has heard of this. I hope its just crap. [grin]
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[/Obama could have 100 people in Australia....he can't just throw 2A out the window (as much as he would like to).QUOTE]

your right but dont forget, with more and more liberal anti gun people in congress and certainly as the President, eventually they will have the upper hand and there will be a minority of pro gun people in key positions and at that point, they can challenge and create bills for anything they want. And the anti gun American liberals will vote for them to pass as well. The Heller case was voted on by a 5 to 4 vote..

I dont know about you guys but to me.... thats scary.... We almost lost.... Why did we almost loose? because more and more liberal antis are getting into office and eventually they will have the upper hand and at that point especially when jerk obama gets in he will try to challenge any and all 2nd Amendment rights.
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It might seem absurd, under present conditions, for Obama or some future President to make a gun grab a la Australia. But if they control the media and the message and people's minds enough, then all they need is an event. Something like another Columbine could push us down a road that'll be very hard to come back from. That is what happened in Australia and England IIRC. They could exploit a sad event and people's sorrow into a gun grab.

And that's why I think it's so important to talk to people around you, especially the liberals. I think there is a very short window of opportunity here. Under Bush's presidency, many people and especially liberals, are worried about their rights being taken away. The right discussion can (maybe) bring out the Libertarian in some of the more intelligent sheep.

But I think that window starts to close in January. Then it'll all be about hopes and dreams and working together (and giving up your rights) to make a better world.
 
There are a lot of political rumors in an election year...some generated by the oppositon and some generated by individuals with specific agendas or overly active imaginations. It would be highly unlikely that such a move would be contemplated (as opposed to desired) by Obama. The only way that he would take on the gun control issue directly would be if there were a massive shooting where someone goes berserk in a shopping mall or in a school or something of that nature prior to the election; then the court of public opinion fueled by the media, would put Obama in a position where he could put gun control squarely on the table. (see GrendelKhan's post, GK beat me to the punch)

Make no mistake about it, Senator Obama is not our friend and will do everything possible to make life miserable for us, just like his friend Deval who is wants to raise our license fees, but the Senator from Illinois is no fool either.

Mark L.
 
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Normally I'd say this was a rumor started by the opposing campaign, but McCain is too much of a wuss to do something like this. I'm going to make myself sick voting for him.
 
I have no doubt that Obama would just love to confiscate all the guns in this country, and (assuming the worst) once in office he might, though I doubt it, look to Australia as a model for how to do that. But actually having people there during the campaign getting a head start on it?? It just doesn't pass the laugh test.
 
The British are used to folding and giving up to the government, American's won't. If they tried house to house confiscation you would here bang bang bang every 4th house. They can have my guns as soon as i'm out of ammo.
 
I'm no scholar by any means but do the former holdings of the British Empire have a Right to own firearms such as we in the US do? That would make gun confiscation a lot easier. IIRC most countries are not thrilled with the idea of an armed citizenry.
As someone said earlier that pesky thing called the Constitution kinda gets in the way.
 
They'll do what CA and MA are doing. Ammo restrictions and absurd fees, compliancy laws, all of this crap will put dealers out of business and make it impossible for you to own a gun and ammo unless you are rich, but you will still have the right to.

Ballistic fingerprinting

Magazine capacity limits

Bans on semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles

Firearm and ammunition purchasing limitations

The 2A exists so that the people will be able to overthrow the government if the government turns into tyrants. These liberals and socialists like deval and obama and hillary and the people who run these states like MA, CA, NY, NJ, etc. are going to do everything that they can in order to take away the peoples ability to defend themselves if the government should turn into tyrants.

It's as simple as that, you do with it what you will. Our forefathers are watching you.
 
highlander said:
I'm no scholar by any means but do the former holdings of the British Empire have a Right to own firearms such as we in the US do? That would make gun confiscation a lot easier. IIRC most countries are not thrilled with the idea of an armed citizenry.
As someone said earlier that pesky thing called the Constitution kinda gets in the way.
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There was nothing like the 2nd in the Australian constitution ( hope I got this right ) to stop them from doing what they did there. The citizens had nowhere to go when the orders came down and quite frankly they wouldn't have in the first place. Can this happen here? Sure it could and there might be a few people shoot back but most of the gunowners would line up and hand them in because your life/family mean more than the guns do. You want to learn what it took and why, the info around the Port Arthur shooting is good reading,

I don't think that we Americans have it in us now to do what is needed after all avenues of addressing the wrong have been used up. I'm not so sure that even I would be all gungho to try but if I don't want to live like a serf than maybe it would be worth it.

Joe R.
 
A few states would be dropping out of the Union if this happened. I highly doubt it.
 
Don't think we are suggesting that Barak is pro-gun. Far from it. He is a anti-gun despite his protestations to the contrary. But he's got far bigger fish to fry. And the suggestion that he would pick an unknown anti-gun activist as his Vice Presidential candidate is simply absurd.
 

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