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I broke Dad's gun

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by swatgig, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:32 AM.

  1. swatgig

    swatgig NES Member

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    One of the guns dad left was an Erma EP-22, Luger clone. It had been in storage for 25+ years before I took possession of it. I tried firing it, but it would just go click. I finally got it apart. It had some corrosion along the frame where the barrel was supposed to slide on. I cleaned that up and realized that the firing pin was broken. (See diagram - part #36 had no pin). I found one and also ordered #11. The trigger was unreliable because #11 would ride up and over #6, instead of pushing it. Turns out there was a groove worn in the grip (#21/22). I filled the groove with epoxy, let it dry, and sanded it smooth. I took it out Friday and got it to shoot when I pulled the trigger, but had plenty of failure to loads. I took it apart yesterday to clean it some more, and when I went to put it back together, the barrel broke (#24) right behind the hole on the right side rear where the pin goes through. I guess I'll just put the broken firing pin back in and use it as a display piece.

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    Broke how? Maybe you can bring it to a capable shop and they can micro-TIG it?
     
  3. Michael J. Spangler

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    Doesn’t Pullman arms do that type of work?
    @pullmanarms
     
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  4. C. Stockwell

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    Looking at the diagram, is it a crack? The only pin for the barrel I see on the diagram is #40. I would contact Lugerman and get a restoration price quote.

    LugerMan | Firearm restoration, manufacturing, parts, sales
     
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    Greg Derr had another great column in the May/June issue of American Handgunner, on micro welding he has done by Pullman Arms.
    Perhaps they could help, if you wanted to invest in a repair for sentimental reasons. Of course it may depend on the material, but in the article, they welded and refinished a cracked Walther P38 slide, as an example.
     
  6. swatgig

    swatgig NES Member

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    It looks like powdered/sinstered metal. I don’t think it’s fixable. Also, since it really is a POS and will never shoot reliably, I think retirement is the correct choice.
     
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    Probably a cast part. If you have the pieces you might be able to braze it.
     
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    swatgig NES Member

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    This is what it looks like now.


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  9. C. Stockwell

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    Erma werkes and their pot metal , if look around you could find another pistol to replace it. $250-300?
     
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    I seem to remember that was typical of that firearm.
     
  13. Al-Jim19

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    If it were my dads gun it wouldn’t matter how much I could replace it for.
     
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    These were made out of cast zinc. Tends to get brittle with age and is resistant to repairs.
     
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    If that was my dad’s gun there would be no way in the world I wouldn’t
    get it repaired, no matter the cost. You only have so many things to
    remember your dad by and having one of his guns is a great way.
    I wrote a rant not long ago how all my dad‘s guns were taken by his
    brother and never returned to me. So I know what it’s like not to have
    one of your father’s guns that was a part of your entire life growing up.

    Fix it!
     
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    Fix it and only use lv ammo thru it.
     
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    Wow. Looked up some of their cast alloy choices. Makes MiM look like 7075.
     
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    You broke Dad's gun?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Gorilla glue?
     
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    Zinc ???
    It looks more like sheet rock.
     
  21. drgrant

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    thats what zamak and other zinc/ pot metal type stuff looks like when it cracks. Walther P22 slides look just like that too when they crack in half/chunks break off/etc.
     
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    I just did some research on that, Zamak was only used on the .22 versions up until 1969.
    I have a KPG 68A Erma Baby Luger in .380, which is made of steel.
     
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    I was worried you were 12 and broke dads gun....

    Anything can be fixed, and I understand sentimental reasons for things..

    All I know is my mom .... wouldn’t make a big deal of it....

    As for advice on repair.... I don’t have a cost effective answer/recommendation.
     
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    My dads voice echoed in my head last night. You break it you own it and I expect a non broken replacement
     
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    You should try Pullman, some of these fabrication guys can do the impossible.
     

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