since this turned into a para bash thread...i own 3, a 14, 16 & 12. got them new in the very early 90's. i've said it before here, mine are super guns and i won't be bullied into jumping on the pig pile to trash them. got the 14 to get that capacity for ipsc. shot many matches with it and thousands of rounds. then went to the 16 to get more round capacity and that shot a ton of matches and had thousands of rounds through it. i don't remember any failures or having to pull out of a match because of the gun being shit. i was still using the 16 when i stopped shooting ipsc in 1997. all have the original parts and have only seen a smith for a few mods, beavertail, long match trigger but not much more. the 12 is still stock except for a recently added beavertail grip safety. all still are going strong and don't mind riding to the range in the same bag with the colts.